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HenryChinaski, is it your desire to see me grovel? Is that why you threaten me with the 'ban button'? I truly understand that I fucked up. I can only offer a sincere apology. And, I understand that you feel sorry for me.

mjp and henrychinaski, you guys are right. My apologies. Gotta deal with my own shit on my own time.

HenryChinaski, give what up? ROC, I guess it's just annoyance. Do you really think the invectives are too much?

mjp, why is it so fucking important if it really happened to buk or not? this shit really happens to some people in life. Isn't that enough? what the fuck do you want?

sounds interesting!!:cool:

Pee-dro and not Pay-dro. How about Peh-dro? Fuck it, vote for Pedro!!:D

Welcome aboard, edgerat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

Damn good point!!!!!!!

Cirerita, what do you for a living if I may ask? I struggle between the desire to be a free-roaming soul and making a living. this is a sincere question.

What the fuck!!! Have you not read any of his books or did you just see the movie, Barfly? He got into fights now and then. sometimes he kicked ass and sometimes he got the shit beat out of him. AND sometimes he walked away because he was scared. What else do you want? He was pretty honest...

If he was doing the only thing he knew how to do then he wasn't necessarily following his bliss.

welcome

Do YOU think it's a good idea? Why do you give a fuck what Bukowski would think? He wouldn't give a fuck what you think.

I didn't think that you meant very strange and intriguing to me!

Hey, you. No one is TAKING Bukowski away from you! I understand your pride. Let the rest of the pied-piper rats and the assorted band-wagon freaks move on to read the latest volume of Chicken-soup for the Soul.

welcome!

cheap gin, wasn't looking for feedback but thanks anyway! You're right about 'rhyming crap'. I was just fucking around. I'm too chickenshit to try to right an actual poem. From cheap bourbon to cheap gin- cheers

right on.

Good point; he was a working man. I just meant that he was on the outside regarding the status quo of society. Out of curiousity, how did the beats get by if they didn't work or "do their chores"? the bourbon is flowing and my...

He was 'here and now' but wasn't he still outside of society?

you make a grand point. Cheers to you!!!!!!!!

Don't get me wrong because I worship bukowski's writing. I just don't think that we need to be apologetic or make excuses for admiring his work; that's just political correctness- fuck that!!!!!!!! Cheers.

It's probably still worth reading, though. We can always check-it-out at the library, thus, not supporting her. That is, if she's as bad as you say.

You can make excuses for his motives but you can't make excuses for his actions; he called women 'whores' and that's that; whether he meant it 'deep down inside' or just 'on the surface' is still hurtful. Talk to me.

Welcome aboard.