A somewhat dissenting opinion

[mjp]

Gotta love this guy.

 

[Father Luke]

I'll leave a comment in a bit.

 

[jmoshea]

"I haven't put my pen to the pages yet - ... partially because I have yet to find a pen I actually love writing with."

Oh boy.

Actually...I think the author's female.

http://onegreatcity.wordpress.com/about-the-blog/

 

[vodka]

i've never really understood people who find Bukowski snobbish and intellectually elite.

i think what the guy is really trying to say is 'Bukowski intimidates the fuck out of me. and because of that i feel inferior. i don't like feeling this way. furthermore, i don't understand why he got so much attention. his writing breaks all the rules. his popularity doesn't make any sense. this confuses me further and makes me feel even more inferior. let me say these things about him in hopes that someone will agree with me. then when someone does, i will feel better about myself because then i know i'm not alone in my confusion and intimidation.'


that's one of my favorite Bukowski poems. it's helped me to understand that it's not necessary to force something. it's okay to just sometimes let it build until it writes itself again. for me, it helps calm the blocks when they come.

it's always sort of reminded me of a favorite quote of Anais Nin:

If you do not breathe through writing, if you do not cry out in writing, or sing in writing, then don't write, because our culture has no use for it.

just sayin'.

jen

 

[Gerard K H Love]

Wow, that guy wants some attention but why bring up Bukowski? He said the words have been stirring around in his head. That must be the voices in his head.
Sometimes people take words a little too personally.

I started to leave a comment but ignoring him would be better. Father Luke will do a better job. Thanks for that mjp

 

[jmoshea]

FYI, it's a woman, not a man, man.

 

[Gerard K H Love]

"I haven't put my pen to the pages yet - ... partially because I have yet to find a pen I actually love writing with."

Oh boy.

Actually...I think the author's female.

http://onegreatcity.wordpress.com/about-the-blog/

I read that whole boring entry to agree with you, she's a girl who is quite intimidated.
Father Luke better not call her a cunt. She might take it the wrong way.;)

 

[CarversDog]

I left a comment ...

 

[CarversDog]

She took down all four dissenting opinions. And within 3 minutes she deleted my criticism of her deletions.

 

[Johannes]

For some reason this reminds me of this guy who rewrote a, errm, "Chuck Buk"-poem to proof his, errm, "criticism" by efficiently draining all the flow and rhythm out of it.

 

[james]

"to be honest, i've never read much of his work."---Ms. L

need we say more???

(actual photo)

 

[CarversDog]

Yep. That about says it all: Big Mouth.

 

[justin grimbol]

the ladies writing reads like the guy that used to do the micro machine commercialls.

 

[vodka]

looks like she's deleting posts?

 

[bospress.net]

The problem with blogs (in my opinion, only) is that unless you find the person fascinating, then it is all just daily minutiae of no interest to anyone.

Imagine cracking open a juicy diary and being riveted by the salacious comments. Now imagine cracking open the diary of a 90 year old accountant whose idea of fun is reading the wall street journal while eating oatmeal. It would be a tough read.

Plus, these blogs convince people that because they can write in a diary (blog) that this makes them a writer.

I just painted my son's bedroom. That does not make me an artist.

Best,
Bill

p.s. Yes, I realize that I sound like a bitter old man...

 

[mjp]

Ha ha ha - it's only been 5 hours and a Google search for "XXXXXXX XXXXX" already brings up this thread (as the third result no less). That's kind of crazy.


Gah, she's just a kid. Now I feel bad. Kind of.

Or not.

 

[CarversDog]

I received a kind and somewhat apologetic e-mail from the young lady (not for public posting, I'm not that kinda guy). I guess everyone has different standards ... the only comments I ever delete at Carver's Dog are those that contain outright harrassment, otherwise I pretty much let anyone have their say, especially if they disagree with me; I mean, that's how you get a dialogue going. Right?

 

[hoochmonkey9]

bah.
leave her alone.
bukowski doesn't do it for her, at least at this moment. so what.
maybe if she takes the cap off that bottle of Cutty Sark and takes a glug she may change her mind. ;)
leave the kid alone, and pray she never finds the perfect pen.

 

[vodka]

i think she's kinda cute.

 

[Bukfan]

She sure like posting pics of herself!

 

[Purple Stickpin]

No one should be immune from criticism, and I mean no one, including ourselves and especially including Bukowski, and he certainly never was exempt. But for someone to call Buk pretentious is akin to calling Charles Manson genteel.

Young or not, absurd pseudo-literary drooling is not to be condoned in my mind, unless they are connecting Camus with Hunter Thompson. Or, something like that.

 

[Father Luke]

So. Seriously.
Should I leave a comment?

 

[vodka]

i agree that you shouldn't call her a cunt.

 

[Father Luke]

She's a kid, fuck sake.

I'd only allude to oral sex.
You know. Subtle like.

 

[vodka]

yah, subtle like a ball pein hammer to the side of the head.

 

[Father Luke]

kind of like that.
yeah.

 

[Gerard K H Love]

Well Planahea made a great comment:

Opinions are truly wonderful things. And the most wonderful thing of all about opinions is they require no knowledge whatsoever.

So did someone called David Fink:

The only reason I bring this up is because words have been fluttering around inside my chest for weeks now.

You should see a doctor about that.

And you should pay attention to what Bukowski says in so you want to be a writer? (not "wanna," douchebag).

And someone called Purple:

Naive. Read. Pretense = fake.

Live on the streets and be fake = not possible.

Read. Research better. Read it all.

Of course I can't leave out the good one from some guy named Rodger Jacobs:

I'll make sure your heavy-handed censorship gets a comment or two at my site. You ought to learn to appreciate and grow from dissenting opinions.

and Bill Roberts simply wrote:

May you have an interesting life.

I posted these here in case she continues to play tyrant dictator, which she can since it's her little show.
It's funny.

Chuck must be from here, since he posted this comment on the Bukowski rant and on her about me post.
Chuck wrote:

Look, you'll be a writer when it's no longer I - I - I, Me - Me - Me. You're sounding self-obsessed and you're spinning your wheels, driving yourself crazy. You don't become a writer by trashing a famous poet whose acclaim is well-deserved. But it's possible you could become a writer. For your blog to have any value, you need to stop censoring the comment section, because it's starting to get around the internet that you are. Start learning from those who post with a contrary opinion. They might have your best interest at heart. -C

Thank you Chuck, good job on that. I think she got the message and she'll be better for it.

Imagine this: If this happened in the 70s and she wrote to him. The old silver tongued fox would've won her susceptible young heart, with her chest full of words. No,really she is too full of herself and he would have picked up on that too.

 

[vodka]

awwww yah she's just a kid. i'm sure when she wrote this she had no idea this place was here or that anyone but her friends would even see it.

it's one of the reasons i'm glad there was no internet when i was a kid. there's no way in hell i would have wanted such a potentially large number of people to be able to access the things i wrote then. i mean, it's bad enough now. but then? no thank you.

who knows what she'll be writing in ten years.

 

[james]

but that's the thing. if you don't want criticism or people to see what you write, then don't post your writings on the WORLD WIDE WEB. when you talk shit about something you obviously know nothing about, do so in your little pink diary under your pillow. if i was to post criticism about shakespeare(someone i know little to nothing about) on my "blog", then i better be ready to do battle with shakespeare scholars.....

 

[vodka]

yah, but that's the thing. she probably didn't realize anyone but her friends read her blog. and she may not really be old enough to have shed that arrogant 'i know everything' perspective on the world. she'll shed that in years to come. this might make her shed it a little faster.

i'm just saying she's young. she's entitled to young people mistakes. we all made them. the cool thing is that we didn't have a blog handy to post them on, so no one can hold us to it.