Take a look at this beauty. I give it an F- for effort.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CHARLES-BUKOWSK...0QQihZ008QQcategoryZ29223QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/CHARLES-BUKOWSK...0QQihZ008QQcategoryZ29223QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Another fake ... will it ever end?
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bospress.net
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Zoom MAn,
I sent him an e-mail too and got the same reply.
We'll see what happens./
Bill
I sent him an e-mail too and got the same reply.
We'll see what happens./
Bill
bospress.net
www.bospress.net
Hi,
It looks like he is not going to shut this down and is going to rip off a buyer. He was warned. I also notified ebay twice. Anyone else wanna take this guy out? If a few of us would file a report of counterfeit autograph, they may actually shut this down before the auction ends. The live chat guy said that I could bid it up and then not pay for it, but that is a piss poor alternative to ebay doing their LEGAL obligation and removing illegal items...
Bill
It looks like he is not going to shut this down and is going to rip off a buyer. He was warned. I also notified ebay twice. Anyone else wanna take this guy out? If a few of us would file a report of counterfeit autograph, they may actually shut this down before the auction ends. The live chat guy said that I could bid it up and then not pay for it, but that is a piss poor alternative to ebay doing their LEGAL obligation and removing illegal items...
Bill
bospress.net
www.bospress.net
Hi,
I know. They are not helpful. They would rather make the $5 on the sale of the forgery than do the right thing and shut it down. I just sent the third e-mail to the seller. I have filed another case. If we could get a few more people to report this, I'm sure that we can get him suspended. It seems that once the bid went up, he felt that he could just slide it through and make a couple bucks. These poor forgeries really make me sick.
DO we know if this member "ebay police" is an actual ebay employee? That would be nice if they would actually listen....
Hell, If I had a shill account, I'd use that and bid it up and then never respond. Too bad I only have one account. Anyone on the list that MAY have a second account and wanna make him pay fees and never sell the book? hint, hint....
Bill
I know. They are not helpful. They would rather make the $5 on the sale of the forgery than do the right thing and shut it down. I just sent the third e-mail to the seller. I have filed another case. If we could get a few more people to report this, I'm sure that we can get him suspended. It seems that once the bid went up, he felt that he could just slide it through and make a couple bucks. These poor forgeries really make me sick.
DO we know if this member "ebay police" is an actual ebay employee? That would be nice if they would actually listen....
Hell, If I had a shill account, I'd use that and bid it up and then never respond. Too bad I only have one account. Anyone on the list that MAY have a second account and wanna make him pay fees and never sell the book? hint, hint....
Bill
mjp
Founding member
I reported it, but only after comparing the seller's other signed books with some Google searches.
The Hitchcock is completely unlike the other Hitchcock signature I found...this guy is bold. I wonder if he would say he found the others at yard sales too. Heh.
I was on the fence about the Bukowski signature until I heard the yard sale bit and saw the Hitchcock.
The Ebay Police user here is not an eBay employee.
The Hitchcock is completely unlike the other Hitchcock signature I found...this guy is bold. I wonder if he would say he found the others at yard sales too. Heh.
I was on the fence about the Bukowski signature until I heard the yard sale bit and saw the Hitchcock.
The Ebay Police user here is not an eBay employee.
chronic
old and in the way
Hey! I just noticed... this is the same seller who sold this one for $405.00:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CHARLES-BUKOWSKI-SIGNED-Notes-Of-A-Dirty-Old-Man-BOOK_W0QQitemZ180000495765
Looks like he's in the business of forging author's signatures.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CHARLES-BUKOWSKI-SIGNED-Notes-Of-A-Dirty-Old-Man-BOOK_W0QQitemZ180000495765
Looks like he's in the business of forging author's signatures.
zoom man
Founding member
Hey Bill,bospress.net said:
I reported him yesterday, late afternoon...
I just don't think e-bay cares.
It is amazing,
Every book this guy has is 'signed.'
This makes me even more suspicious of sellers' who keep the buyers' ids Private.
(I would otherwise contact them....)
Should we bombard this guy with e-mails on all his items?!!
We need a plan, Stan,
I want to get this guy
(this guy of one of thousands, I'm sure :( )
bospress.net
www.bospress.net
Hi,
His e-mail is bookace101@yahoo.com. It would now appear that he is just making these up as he goes. Maybe we sould all send him e-mails letting him know that 1) we will report every forged Bukowski book to ebay until he is removed, and that it does not matter what ebay ID he uses, we will find him and 2) If ebay will not shut him down, we will have one of our operatives bid the book up and then not pay for it. Either way, they wil not be sold.
These people with their dirty pens make me sick. The fact that soe sucker paid $405 for a $3 book with a quickly forged signature is sad. Of course, the buyer was ignorant too. That book was not worth $405 if it was a first edition and signed. Even if real.
Bill
His e-mail is bookace101@yahoo.com. It would now appear that he is just making these up as he goes. Maybe we sould all send him e-mails letting him know that 1) we will report every forged Bukowski book to ebay until he is removed, and that it does not matter what ebay ID he uses, we will find him and 2) If ebay will not shut him down, we will have one of our operatives bid the book up and then not pay for it. Either way, they wil not be sold.
These people with their dirty pens make me sick. The fact that soe sucker paid $405 for a $3 book with a quickly forged signature is sad. Of course, the buyer was ignorant too. That book was not worth $405 if it was a first edition and signed. Even if real.
Bill
zoom man
Founding member
This is the guy that bought that $405 Notes....
stonegrandfather( 795)
I was going to e-mail him and say hey,
You were totally ripped off
But my God, he's a high end bookseller?!
Could he be that ignorant?!
Anyway, I reported our forgers other 3 items as fake too....
Thanks for his e-mail addy Bill,
Do you know his name?
stonegrandfather( 795)
I was going to e-mail him and say hey,
You were totally ripped off
But my God, he's a high end bookseller?!
Could he be that ignorant?!
Anyway, I reported our forgers other 3 items as fake too....
Thanks for his e-mail addy Bill,
Do you know his name?
bospress.net
www.bospress.net
HI,
I would notify the buyer of the item. If he paid with paypal, it will be reversed. He may be ignorant and should not be, but if he is a bookseller, that means that he plans on reselling it. That mean that some poor sap will buy it from him and get ripped off. We can stop this forgery from getting into the system.
I would tell him. Absolutely...
BIll
I would notify the buyer of the item. If he paid with paypal, it will be reversed. He may be ignorant and should not be, but if he is a bookseller, that means that he plans on reselling it. That mean that some poor sap will buy it from him and get ripped off. We can stop this forgery from getting into the system.
I would tell him. Absolutely...
BIll
bospress.net
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bless that little bird.
bospress.net
www.bospress.net
Hi Zoom Man,
This buyer stonegrandfather seems like he is JUST like the guy that ripped him off. He has a bunch of FB accusing him of fraud. He also hides all of his bidders names. It would be fun to let him know that he was ripped off and that this would have been prevented by the seller listing the names of bidders. We would have warned him, but because he wants to play this little game, he now has a $405 book that is worth $2.
Also, this guy is not a high end bookseller. He buys inferior copies of common, but classic books (like Hem) then improves the photos, better listing and upsells the usingt a Buy It Now for at least double what he just paid for it. Nothing wrong with this, but he is not a bookdealer. He is a short term speculator. Plus, that art..... You gotta see the art....
I say let him know so that he and the other "upstanding member of the bookselling community" can go at it...
Bill
This buyer stonegrandfather seems like he is JUST like the guy that ripped him off. He has a bunch of FB accusing him of fraud. He also hides all of his bidders names. It would be fun to let him know that he was ripped off and that this would have been prevented by the seller listing the names of bidders. We would have warned him, but because he wants to play this little game, he now has a $405 book that is worth $2.
Also, this guy is not a high end bookseller. He buys inferior copies of common, but classic books (like Hem) then improves the photos, better listing and upsells the usingt a Buy It Now for at least double what he just paid for it. Nothing wrong with this, but he is not a bookdealer. He is a short term speculator. Plus, that art..... You gotta see the art....
I say let him know so that he and the other "upstanding member of the bookselling community" can go at it...
Bill
zoom man
Founding member
bospress.net said:
Wow!, ok, will do....
I didn't look into him that much.
This is all so disillusional...
E-bay spawns both monsters
And no-where-else-could-you-find-it-incredible-deals!
Still, it's a pill that I'll religiously swallow every day
That leaves a bad taste only sometimes...
zoom man
Founding member
Yes, a very uninformed collector running a yard sale...
Good news, the guy ended his other 3 auctions
http://cgi.ebay.com/ALFRED-HITCHCOCK-SIGNED...
Good news, the guy ended his other 3 auctions
http://cgi.ebay.com/ALFRED-HITCHCOCK-SIGNED...
Rekrab
Usually wrong.
You all probably saw this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Charles-Bukowsk...736QQihZ005QQcategoryZ268QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It's amazing that a copy of YOU GET SO ALONE with a questionable signature got over $1000, yet a copy of IT CATCHES, with an undeniably authentic signature, but a couple flaws, ended with no bidders at $499. Condition may be king, but I have to conclude some collectors are just plain stupid. Or did I miss some big red flag with IT CATCHES? I'd buy it myself if I had $500 laying around unused.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Charles-Bukowsk...736QQihZ005QQcategoryZ268QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It's amazing that a copy of YOU GET SO ALONE with a questionable signature got over $1000, yet a copy of IT CATCHES, with an undeniably authentic signature, but a couple flaws, ended with no bidders at $499. Condition may be king, but I have to conclude some collectors are just plain stupid. Or did I miss some big red flag with IT CATCHES? I'd buy it myself if I had $500 laying around unused.
David, I think a few concerned citizens drove the price up on this one, without the intention of paying, sticking the forging asshole with a higher ebay fee.
hopefully the prick has learned his lesson.
hopefully the prick has learned his lesson.