the pleasures of the damned 1951-1993

[HenryChinaski]

xxx: yeah
xxx: the poems 1951-1993
xxx: martin selected some old stuff, lus new ones
xxx: actually, dumbass, the book is titled "the pleasures of the damned"
xXCaptMidnightXx: really
xxx: yeah, keep it on the DeeeL
xXCaptMidnightXx: ahahhahahah I will
xXCaptMidnightXx: what about the bukowski boards
xXCaptMidnightXx: LOL
xXCaptMidnightXx: MY FRIENDS WANT TO KNOW THESE THINGS
xxx: don't
xxx: i might get in trouble
xXCaptMidnightXx: okay
xXCaptMidnightXx: my lips are sealed
xxx: coz then a different company might compete, bla bla blah
xxx: but the paperbacks i worked on should be out in a few months
xxx: march, i believe
xxx: this new book is for the general masses. like a "definitive" collection
xxx: clearly they can't put the whole catalogue in one book
xxx: fuck it, you can tell the boards

SO MY FRIENDS,
a little birdy sang to me
of new poetry collections

The Pleasures Of The Damned

for release after
The People Look Like Flowers At Last.


YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
<3

 

[nymark]

It's amazing how the things that are never suppose to be discussed in public always get out before their time.

 

[mjp]

That's exactly why I don't believe the government has a warehouse full of little alien corpses or staged moon landings. No way in hell it could have been kept quiet...

 

[bospress.net]

Hi,
I'm curious, was this an IM or a forum that this was "outed"? I'm dying to know who the source was!

Bill

 

[nymark]

Me too. It sounds like someone at Ecco.

 

[HenryChinaski]

it is someone at ecco

his name will be kept private for secrecy reasons.
just a little hint, he has posted here before.

CAN YOU FIND HIM? ;)

 

[mjp]

Ah, another sampler. Yawn.

They should name it Cold Dogs in the Courtyard or Longshot Pomes for Broke Players, just to create confusion like Martin did with Run With the Hunted. ;)

Good work turning that up, HenryChinaski.

bukowski.net undercover operatives are everywhere! No secret is safe!

 

[Paul Sempschi]

Ah, another sampler. Yawn.

What do you mean by sampler? Is it stuff that is already out on the Black Sparrow/Ecco label or does that mean that it is just uncollected/little magazine publication stuff? Sorry if it seems like a stupid question, I just found the post vague (from a newbie standpoint).

 

[mjp]

It's going to be mainly things published in other readily available Black Sparrow books, that's what I meant by sampler.

Uncollected small press poems would make a great collection (according to cirerita, there are enough out there for a few collections), but that is not what this will be.

 

[Paul Sempschi]

that is a pity, this being the end piece of his archive (I gather that "Flowers" will be the last book of unpublished work). Knowing very little about Buk, it is apparent that you could get another series going of the magazine stuff. It could be done like Ted Sturgeon, complete and in multi-volume; for era and genre. Perhaps even a book of fragments and unfinished work but Ecco seems too mainstream to wanna do anything with that.

 

[HenryChinaski]

ECCO? Mainstream? No, why what on earth would ever give you that idea?
lol I've been on an ECCO trashing rant in my past few posts. Sorry. I apologize for the harsh words.

 

[ROC]

Actually, I would like to see a "Bukowski - collected poems" book brought out by ecco or anyone else.
It would be the standard height and width... but it would be 3' deep.
Every poem they can lay their hands on in one utterly useless collection... rivaling the Encyclopedia Britannica

Bring it on!

 

[Bukfan]

And I would like to see a book with his uncollected short stories and articles from mags such as "High Times", "Hustler", "Open City" and all the rest of them...

 

[HenryChinaski]

yes, I was thinking the same thing. I would like a new collection of short stories previously only published in magazines.

 

[Bukfan]

Maybe we should start a pressure group and do some lobbying...:D

 

[cirerita]

when I asked Martin about publishing a book of short stories he said it was a no-go. Apparently, he believed at the time -2001- that the quality of the uncollected stories is not worth publishing. I also asked him about a book of reviews and he replied the same thing. He might have changed his mind, but he was pretty firm at the time...

 

[mjp]

Well it doesn't really matter what he thinks anymore, does it? ;)

In 20 years everything will be published. Okay, maybe that's wishful thinking, but here's what will happen: In another generation (a mere 20 years) Bukowski will be "discovered" by a group of young publishers who will make it their business to see everything in print.

By then you'll be able to get bukowski.net directly on your cranial implant.

And yes, it will still be here. Ha.

 

[HenryChinaski]

compliments of nymark:

 

[HenryChinaski]

this came in the mail today:

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looks good. when it gets released, the hardcover will be really something amazing.
also, martins claims to have included the last of the uncollected poems.

bout 550 pages.

p.s. thanks to the alphabetical poem index in the back of the book, I've counted them up and it looks as though there are 20 uncollected poems in this last collection. I'll let you know which ones they are when I get a little more time...but right now, I'm late for work. it sucks because i'd love to stay home and read this proof all day. :/

 

[hank solo]

Thats a nice little pressie. Lucky you H.C.

Well, maybe thats it...

:(

 

[cirerita]

yep, there are 20 previously uncollected poems. These are the titles:

dark night poem
the drowning
the girl outside the supermarket
something about a woman
advice for some young man in the year 2064 A.D.
bow wow love [Bow Down Love??]
the veryest
elephants in the zoo
the shit shits
Verdi
the young lady who lives in Canoga Park
my fate
my atomic stockpile
thoughts from a stone bench in Venice
starve, go mad, or kill yourself
afternoons into night
coffee and babies
magical mystery tour
dreaming
my special craving

 

[bospress.net]

Four of those titles were ones that I published as broadsides over the years...

Pretty cool to see them in the book.

Bill

 

[hank solo]

no fair. i want one.

hey, ecco employees, uk proof reader waiting here - yoohoo! :p

 

[Bukfan]

Wow, what a brick! 576 pages it says on the back cover. I hope it contains all of his best stuff, like Genius of the Crowd, The Bluebird etc. When is it going to be released - next year?

 

[cirerita]

This Fall.

 

[HenryChinaski]

november 07 is what it says on the back of the book. i will def be buying the hardcover delux edition because it'll be something amazing.

 

[Bukfan]

Thanks, guys!
HC, are all of his famous poems included?

 

[mjp]

Four of those titles were ones that I published as broadsides over the years...

Pretty cool to see them in the book.

And magical mystery tour was in a Black Sparrow freebie, wasn't it?

How many of those are really hard to find?

It sort of bothers me to see a rehash collection like this when there's so much that could be done with really rare stuff. But that would just be catering to the geeks, I suppose. Every poem in there will probably be "new" to most people who pick up a copy.

 

[bospress.net]

mjp,
You are right. Magical Mystery Tour was a "birthday card" from Ecco.

 

[HenryChinaski]

Thanks, guys!
HC, are all of his famous poems included?

yeah, most of the great ones. I really wish "the best love poem I can think of" was included. I'll scan the index so i don't have to type em all up.