number6horse
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Michael Jackson's hand ?
America in Panic - Michael Jackson dead
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Michael Jackson's hand ?
I probably have a differnt idea of what a genius is than alot of people. I think that people who are super good at sports can be geniuses( not the ones who are physically built perfect for their sport like the fishman AKA M. Phelps or shaq but people like M.Ali or Wayne Gretzky). The main reason I would consider M.J. a genius would be his dance moves. Also the way he suffered all these allegations of child molestation and still managed to hold on to legions of devoted fans, by coming off as just so innocent and childlike. That takes a very sharp mind. He handled his fans better than anyone I can think of. He was also very good at handleing the media and holding his title of the king of pop for so LONG. But basically it was his dance moves. I've never seen anyone dance like him, and that is something. There are so many people conditioned to dance from a young age, but there has never been anyone like M.J. Plus anyone who would go on T.V. and say that there is nothing more loving than sharing a bed with a young boy, amidst all the controversy, and still manage to not go to prison has to be a genius:)
Dancing has alot to do with music. I used to work at a country club that hosted alot of banquets, and it didn't seem like ANYONE was dancing without music. I definetly agree he was not a musical genius, but I think his dancing qualifies him as a genius in some sense of the word.
Not as good as Prince, eh, mjp? (For example...)
Oh, and I do agree; if it's danceable, it's probably not worth listening to. Except for Darling Dear, which has one of Jamerson's most ridiculously crazy bass parts. I can't stop listening to THAT.
How many good Beatles or Dylan tunes are danceable?
Oh, and I do agree; if it's danceable, it's probably not worth listening to. Except for Darling Dear, which has one of Jamerson's most ridiculously crazy bass parts. I can't stop listening to THAT.
How many good Beatles or Dylan tunes are danceable?
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My Daughter heard about his death. Then tonight we were watching TV and they showed a quick photo of him and my 9 year old daughter asked "Who is that woman?" I shit you not. It was PRICELESS. I had to explain that he used to be a normal looking enough man before he started doing strange things to himself.
I'm not sure about the music or dancing, but that NOSE was fucking genius. You HAVE to be a genius to make yourself look that odd. Had he lived longer, maybe he would have removed it entirely. What a joke.
Bill
I'm not sure about the music or dancing, but that NOSE was fucking genius. You HAVE to be a genius to make yourself look that odd. Had he lived longer, maybe he would have removed it entirely. What a joke.
Bill
Black Swan
Abord the Yorikke!
Michael Jackson, creepy or genius?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x316nw_michael-jackson-genius-or-creepyy_fun
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x316nw_michael-jackson-genius-or-creepyy_fun
Here's one for you. I HATE Micheal Jackson, he is/was a child molester. He has/did rape children for years. He can/did dance and sing his ass off until the cows came home... BUT He is still/was a childlmolesting FREAK> I don't care how BAD his childhood existence was... LEAVE CHILDREN ALONE> When you have money like MJ had Money$$ you can buy any freaky-wild-sex shit you want. The second you start fucking around with little KIDS... well There IS something wrong. SING. DANCE. JAM. MAKEALLKINDSOFMONEY$$$$ LEAVE THE CHILDREN BE>.
Jackson gave creeps a bad name.
I agree with CRBSMILE - I'm glad that wannabe whity supremacist in bling bling
SS-uniform with brassard is motherfucking DEAD. Hey I can hear his new song:"Because I'm dead, I'm dead, you know it!".
The bastard had the nerves to sing:"We are the world, we are the children, we are the ones to make a better day, so let's start giving."
Give what? His boner up a young boy's ass? What a nice gift, Michael Jackson.
Rot in hell.
SS-uniform with brassard is motherfucking DEAD. Hey I can hear his new song:"Because I'm dead, I'm dead, you know it!".
The bastard had the nerves to sing:"We are the world, we are the children, we are the ones to make a better day, so let's start giving."
Give what? His boner up a young boy's ass? What a nice gift, Michael Jackson.
Rot in hell.
his nose but same idea.
mjp
Founding member
Pardon me for not dumbing down my comment. Here, try this: The ability of a performer to dance has nothing to do with musical talent.
Is that more clear? I wasn't commenting on the "danceability" of the music.
As for "not as good as Prince" - as a musician, no. That's laughable. Jackson was not in the same league. And that is indisputable, whether you like Prince or think he's too wet. But while we're on the subject, dismissing Prince because of his guitar sound on some songs is like saying The Beatles sucked because Ringo couldn't sing. It's a very small part of the whole.
As a dancer, Jackson was no doubt better than Prince. But I don't rate musicians on their dancing ability.
Gerard K H Love
Appreciate your friends
Easy now. and Potox Don't ask me why I know this but MJ preferred to perform fellatio on those little boys. He liked to teach them how to french kiss at his little slumber parties.
"Would you care for some more Jesus juice, Macaulay?"
This guy needs to come clean and talk.
Why stay easy? I didn't like his music in the first place and what's happening now is that people who were/are into his music talk about the loss of a great artist and blabla about his violent dad...man it's so boring to hear these clichees
and it seems like the MJ fans don't want to face the fact he was a child molester, let it be blowjobs or whatever, that's not important. The pushing aside of it is pissing me off.
And I do see a similarity in some of his stage dresses and certain evil uniforms.
He was singing in a scary monster voice.
Plus, isn't there a difference between a white guy getting tanned and a black guy bleaching his skin? In the case of MJ I think he wanted to be part of the white ruling elite and on that way he was racist to his own people.
If you like the music, o.k., don't blame me for driving on the Autobahn.
and it seems like the MJ fans don't want to face the fact he was a child molester, let it be blowjobs or whatever, that's not important. The pushing aside of it is pissing me off.
And I do see a similarity in some of his stage dresses and certain evil uniforms.
He was singing in a scary monster voice.
Plus, isn't there a difference between a white guy getting tanned and a black guy bleaching his skin? In the case of MJ I think he wanted to be part of the white ruling elite and on that way he was racist to his own people.
If you like the music, o.k., don't blame me for driving on the Autobahn.
But I thought you liked scary monster voice?
I don't like Michael Jackson's songs at all and I puke on pedophiles
but since this is still The Bukowski forum I'd like you to re-read his poem again.
Note: It's not my intention to post the poem to insult any single poster on the
subject of this thread because I do believe in freedom of speech.
My reason to post the poem is to show Bukowski's perspective on hatred.
What do you think of it?
but since this is still The Bukowski forum I'd like you to re-read his poem again.
Note: It's not my intention to post the poem to insult any single poster on the
subject of this thread because I do believe in freedom of speech.
My reason to post the poem is to show Bukowski's perspective on hatred.
What do you think of it?
Sure the poem is great and I don't even feel it fits my hate on pedophiles.
No preaching from my side, I only feel that child abuse deserves my hate.
If nobody would feel hate for child molesters they could go on forever.
So in this case, I propagate hate, no peace, no forgiving, no understanding.
But, Ponder, you're right, this is bukowski.net and now, after I puked out my emotions I can be easy again.
No preaching from my side, I only feel that child abuse deserves my hate.
If nobody would feel hate for child molesters they could go on forever.
So in this case, I propagate hate, no peace, no forgiving, no understanding.
But, Ponder, you're right, this is bukowski.net and now, after I puked out my emotions I can be easy again.
mjp
Founding member
With all due respect Ponder, calling someone a piece of shit child-fucker doesn't necessarily mean you hate them. ;)
We can wring our hands and say, "Oh, no one knows for sure if he did those things," but we do know for sure that he built a theme park around his house for christ's sake, and very, very often had young children spend the night alone with him without parental supervision. He was accused by several kids (and later after some of them became adults) of inappropriate sexual behavior. To suggest that they were all, every one of them, "out for money" and not one of them is telling the truth stretches the bounds of believability to the breaking point. Normal grown men do not do those things. And normal grown men are not accused of doing it as many times as Jackson was.
His status as an alleged child rapist aside, if stating the ugly truth that we was not the earth-shattering talent that most of the world would have you believe is hatred, then I'm a hater. Because he wasn't.
We do this with every high profile person that dies; sweep the ugliness under the rug and hail them as precious angels who fell from heaven to grace our pathetic lives ever so briefly. It's disgusting to watch it happen over and over again, and to have schoolkids now thinking, "Hey Richard Nixon, great President!" among the other half million lies we "educate" them with.
It's fucked, it's revisionist history, and we spend a lot of time here pointing out Bukowski many flaws and half-truths in an attempt to counteract the deification and misunderstanding of yet another dead well-known person.
But I won't say anything more about KING MICHAEL.
Except this (ha): I wouldn't have wiped my ass with him while he was alive, and I refuse to let his death change that opinion. If I'm ever in the vicinity of his grave I will go out of my way to piss on it.
Nixon's too.
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Okay, I guess there was some hate in there. I stand corrected. Carry on.
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Oh, and Gerard, this is a better picture of Macaulay Culkin in drag...
We can wring our hands and say, "Oh, no one knows for sure if he did those things," but we do know for sure that he built a theme park around his house for christ's sake, and very, very often had young children spend the night alone with him without parental supervision. He was accused by several kids (and later after some of them became adults) of inappropriate sexual behavior. To suggest that they were all, every one of them, "out for money" and not one of them is telling the truth stretches the bounds of believability to the breaking point. Normal grown men do not do those things. And normal grown men are not accused of doing it as many times as Jackson was.
His status as an alleged child rapist aside, if stating the ugly truth that we was not the earth-shattering talent that most of the world would have you believe is hatred, then I'm a hater. Because he wasn't.
We do this with every high profile person that dies; sweep the ugliness under the rug and hail them as precious angels who fell from heaven to grace our pathetic lives ever so briefly. It's disgusting to watch it happen over and over again, and to have schoolkids now thinking, "Hey Richard Nixon, great President!" among the other half million lies we "educate" them with.
It's fucked, it's revisionist history, and we spend a lot of time here pointing out Bukowski many flaws and half-truths in an attempt to counteract the deification and misunderstanding of yet another dead well-known person.
But I won't say anything more about KING MICHAEL.
Except this (ha): I wouldn't have wiped my ass with him while he was alive, and I refuse to let his death change that opinion. If I'm ever in the vicinity of his grave I will go out of my way to piss on it.
Nixon's too.
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Okay, I guess there was some hate in there. I stand corrected. Carry on.
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Oh, and Gerard, this is a better picture of Macaulay Culkin in drag...
number6horse
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All right, just to take a breather on the Michael Jackson exchange : WTF is up with the Macaulay Culkin cross-dressing business ? Is he out now as a tranny ? Everyone should fly their freak flag as needed, but those just looked creepy to me. Not "Join the Pride Parade !" type happy at all.
I think you missed my point. I didn't mean he was a musical genius, I was saying he was a genius because of the way he could dance. And I don't think you're comment needed to be dumbed down. When soneone says "dancing has nothing to do with music", I would imagine most people would think that was ridiculous. You just could have been more clear.
Gerard K H Love
Appreciate your friends
I was a pretty damn fine dancer in my day....long long ago. It is not a brain thing to exercise your rhythm in repetitious dance steps. It happens more than you think about it.
If he wrote his songs, then there was some talent, but he was very well produced, coached and scripted. The only thing he did was pick the right handlers for his act.
Potox makes a good point with the words to We Are the World, which MJ did write half of.
If he wrote his songs, then there was some talent, but he was very well produced, coached and scripted. The only thing he did was pick the right handlers for his act.
Potox makes a good point with the words to We Are the World, which MJ did write half of.
The true fans will never accept the obvious truth about MJ.
I suppose that's what I get for poking at a bee's nest. What I wrote was largely tongue-in-cheek. But anyway, since rhythm is an inherent part of dance and in the ability to create truly grooving music (as opposed to just notes and chords) is highly dependent upon a sense of rhythm, the two may actually have some degree of dependence.
That said, I'm a shitty dancer but I have a good sense of rhythm.
I think if you're the best at anything then you're probably some sort of genius. No one could imitate the dance moves he made up. Tiger Woods has amazing hand/eye coordination, although he's not discoverig theories of the universe or writing songs like "Ballad of a thin Man", hit can hit a golfball better than probably anyone ( I still don't thimk he has a soul).
LickTheStar
Sad Flower in the Sand
mjp
Founding member
There are half a dozen guys down on Hollywood boulevard alone who imitate his moves all day long.
If that's what I have to do to sell some books, I'd find it a few days well spent. ;)