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[buk babe]

wow....thanks for all of that. sounds like someone really knows their stuff.
what in your opinion constitutes a big collection? is it merely a matter of titles, numbers of editions or condition of those editions?
some editions are obviously more coveted than others. but it seems even the most collectible of copies are not moving.

 

[bospress.net]

These collections that were being talked about were extensive. As I heard it, one of them was (2) copies of every edition of every Black Sparrow book.

Montfort's collection was amazing. Check on abe and you can probably buy a catalog from the Simon Finch Booksellers. Also, the Groff was handled by PBA, and they put out a print catalog.

Bill

 

[mjp]

I don't think the Montfort catalog is available from Finch. I tried to get it from them a long time ago but eventually had to find it on eBay. I suppose it might be on abe too.

 

[hank solo]

I don't think the Montfort catalog is available from Finch... I suppose it might be on abe too.

I think that's what Bill meant. You can always download the pdf from Finch [1.7Mb file], although it is missing the many photographs that were present in the printed version. It certainly was one incredible collection.

 

[mjp]

Check on abe and you can probably buy a catalog from the Simon Finch Booksellers.

Oh. Der.

 

[Purple Stickpin]

Abe does have its drawbacks. My wife bought me a birthday present the other day, and it turned out to be no longer available. Some sellers don't update their listings as well as they should.

 

[Rekrab]

True. My wife works in a bookstore and it's common for them to order a book for a customer off ABE and have it not available, or no response from the seller. On the other hand, I've gotten some great buys on ABE.

 

[toastedtwice]

Goodness! Jordon! What the hell did I do o deserve being slapped in the face and spit on by the likes of you? I thoroughly enjoy things related to Bukowski. I know several fine good people that contribute to this site. I have known about this site and observed from time to time a few years. I merely wanted to step in and say some words in support of the Bukowski market. So, let me see. The first was someone telling me how a keyboard is laid out. Another says they can smell my stink. Ok, ok, got people on a bad day. I add some more remarks and I get another response suggesting they don't get my point at all. Ok, ok, a little bit lost in translation but Jordon your comments are entirely out or order and unforgivable. You do not know the first thing about me or what I do know or don't know about Bukowski. I was not explaining who Ralph Sipper was or the others I was giving a short list of recent major collections sold. Hell Jordan it's like you stood up and took a piss all over my diner plate. Happy? And guess what...I don't need it or you or whatever game your into on this site but watch very carefully you will never..I mean never see me post anything ever again. Hey, nice work jordon.

 

[ROC]

Public Profile; "toastedtwice has not made any friends yet"

True.

 

[hank solo]

Language is a funny thing.

 

[mjp]

...slapped in the face and spit on...someone telling me how a keyboard is laid out. Another says they can smell my stink...they don't get my point at all...your comments are entirely out or order and unforgivable...you stood up and took a piss all over my diner plate...you will never..I mean never see me post anything ever again...

That was just their way of saying they love you.

Sorry man, the red carpet is not rolled out for anyone. Really though, you generally only have to take abuse for a day or two, then one of two things happens; you lose your mind, or everyone says, "Oh, okay, he's all right."

If you lose your mind, the initial abuse just seems justified. If you don't lose your mind you and everyone else eventually get over it. It's not Thunderdome. Two men enter, but two men can leave. Unless you lose your mind. Then, two men enter; one man leaves.

Just a little how-to for anyone else who wants to say 'hi.'

Listen all!
This is the truth of it.
Fighting leads to killing, and killing gets to warring.
And that was damn near the death of us all.
Look at us now! Busted up, and everyone talking about hard rain!
But we've learned, by the dust of them all...Bartertown learned.
Now, when men get to fighting, it happens here, and it finishes here!
Two men enter; one man leaves.

 

[Rekrab]

Now you have me wanting to see Thunderdome again. Thanks, I guess. I can't remember if it was any good, but I have to see it.

 

[mjp]

In the mighty trilogy of Road Warrior movies it comes in a distant third, but it has its great moments. Your best bet would be to waste an entire day watching all three. ;)

You know, that or Lord of the Rings. Same thing.

 

[roni]

Have I said before, that I think the tone here sometimes tends to be unneccararily harsh? Esp to some newbies

 

[mjp]

Maybe.

The only time I see it though, is when someone comes in with an attitude or an agenda. In which case, I have no problem with them being shown the door.

Having said that, I don't think toastedtwice came in with an attitude or an agenda. He did, however, come in with a very thin skin, and honestly, something would have offended him sooner or later and we would have had the same dramatic proclamations on his exit.

If it was overly friendly here, I think it would be disingenuous. As it is, a lot of people who I believe do not belong here make it just fine because they don't bust in through the wall waving their dicks at everyone. And a lot of people who would probably be good contributors flame out because they fail to get a feel for the room, so to speak.

This isn't behavior specific to this forum. It is something that happens in the majority of forums or on line groups that are around long enough.

 

[Gerard K H Love]

I had some sesame bread yesterday and I toasted it twice. It was better that way. It made the sesame flavor fill the room.
I'm sorry we made that guy feel like his dinner was pissed in. I hope he gets over it. These are only words on the internet.

 

[Rekrab]

I don't know if it's true but I've heard that if the Hate Speech Bill passes and you say something online that hurts someone's feelings, it's a crime, you're a terrorist, they take you off to a secret prison and torture you, etc. Seems like that would fill up the sceret prisons pretty fast. Or maybe I shouldn't listen to the radio stations that say such things.

 

[Ponder]

I hate it when I both agree with

and

 

[bospress.net]

I don't know if it's true but I've heard that if the Hate Speech Bill passes and you say something online that hurts someone's feelings, it's a crime, you're a terrorist, they take you off to a secret prison and torture you, etc. Seems like that would fill up the sceret prisons pretty fast. Or maybe I shouldn't listen to the radio stations that say such things.

David,
You must be listening to FOX or the Family Station... These are arguments that they make, but are not true. They say that Religious leaders will not be allowed to rail against homosexuality, for example, and can be arrested for doing so. Not true. This is the same tactic that they use in the "war on Christians", where not allowing a manger scene or the Ten Commandments in a public building is because "they" hate Christianity. In fact, I believe that religion has no place in public buildings. If you are going to allow the Ten Commandments in a building owned by us all, you have to allow the Koran, Torah and, in fact, every religious relic from every fringe religion. That is why it is best to keep it out of there. There are troops in Iraq that can now have satanic prayer services because the Evangelicals pushed for their prayer sessions. If you let one, you have to let them all.

Still, back to the topic. Speech is protected, even hate speech. Now when that hate speech calls for action that violates law, then it is not protected.

The KKK can still march and cannot be arrested for their ignorance.

This is like calling the continued banning of Gay Marriage "Protection of Marriage". They make it look like they are being assaulted to rally the troops. Gay people being married does not hurt "traditional marriage" any more than inter-racial marriage hurts people of the same race that choose to marry.

It is all a con and a way to make the masses feel threatened into action.

Buke would hate them all....

Bill

 

[roni]

ponder, I like the titles of your pictures.

 

[Bukfan]

Speech is protected, even hate speech.

Really? Over here they call hate speech discrimination and there's a law against it. For instance, you can't say in public, "The XXX breeds like rats", as one of our right-wing politicians once said about the Muslim immigrants here. If you do you'll risk getting a fine or worse.

 

[mjp]

The XXX breeds like rats

They smell funny too, the XXX. I hate them.

 

[Bukfan]

I'm sure you're not the only one! And their hair do's are awful too. :D

 

[Rekrab]

Bill,

Not Fox -- some fringey podcast station. Political conspiracy talk and paranoia frenzy to rot my brain all day as I crunch numbers. No wonder I skulk along like I'm about to be mugged by Nazis. Fear is my natural state. Anyway, it's reassuring to hear it is not true about the hate bill banning mean web posts. I may listen to a lot of crap, but I don't necessarily believe it all.

Now those filthy XXX! They are not to be trusted!

By the way, we may not always agree on political issues, but I am always amazed at how well informed you are, while I generally have a lot of half-baked notions based on half-truths, so I do not take my own opinions very seriously.

 

[jordan]

well, it's a shame you won't post anymore (don't know if you'll read this or not), given that you do have some insight into the book trade that has a place here. still, i can't back off and say hey you just caught me being nasty, because i do think you came across as rude, especially in your post "correcting" barker - who had not even missed your point in the first place. whatever, i suppose i shouldn't bother bidding on your ebay auctions in the future (assuming i'm correct about which seller on eBay you are), which is really my loss for being so quick to judge. here's the thing, though - i got a private message a few days after i joined this site telling me i was being an asshole and to shut up, and i *gasp* took their advice, apologized, humbled myself, and have had a great time on this site (i even met my wife here - not saying it will happen for you, but hey). sorry it comes across as pissing on your dinner plate - i'm sure if i got to know you in real life or on cyberspace, we'd get along just fine, i just didn't get a great first impression. as long as you're done on the site, thanks for stopping by.

 

[justine]

never trust a man who can't tell the difference between your and you're.

this advice has always served me well.

also: we don't like seeing our friends here condescended to, in any way. personally, i think you teach people how to treat you, and if we just let someone come in and right off the bat talk down to our friends, then it's the same as saying YEP IT'S COOL JUST COME RIGHT IN AND SHIT ALL OVER US.

 

[jordan]

i should add that i can't count the number of times i've been misinterpreted and made a bad first impression... i'd have almost no lasting friends, online or otherwise, if i threw up my hands and stormed off every time. jeez.

 

[buk babe]

it is a very rough crowd sometimes. hang in there. a thick skin seems to help but does not always do the trick.