Brand new Forgery on Ebay

[chronic]

I sent him a message as well, simple and to the point: "This is not Bukowski's signature. Please withdraw this item." He's canceled the auction. It pays for a few of us to get on these people, though I doubt that this one will change his ways.

 

[chronic]

I can understand people wanting to keep what they buy secret at times, but wouldn't it be easier to let the bidder choose to not have his name listed, instead of the seller choose this? Sellers should not care, it should be an issue for bidders.

Actually, that's a very good idea. I wonder if anyone has ever suggested this to ebay.

 

[bospress.net]

Hi,
I find it hard to believe that a multi-billion dollar company would not have the resources to brainstorm and think of this themselves. Plus, I have found that ebay is not open to any ideas that will lower their profits. Of course, this wouls actually RAISE their profits (in the long run,) as it would inspire a bit more trust in ebay. They would not see it like that. They would see the con artists having trouble selling their con and because of this millions of dollars a year in fees that they get from the fraud that they pretend that they cannot stop.

Their stated goals and their actual goals seem to be two very different things.

Very sad that groups like Bukowski.net have to jump on frauds directly and threaten them to stop this, when it is so obvious that this seller is foorging every signature that he is selling. Anyone at ebay with half a brain could tell that.

Hell, maybe they'll read this post and do something. They do have people who do searches on Google and read what is being said about them. Who knows.

Best,
Bill

 

[roni]

I've been going through all his feedback. Oh, boy, what a long list of complaints.

And imagine - given the high numbers of private auctions with POSITIVE feedback - how many he may have cheated SUCCESSFULLY! That's the really sad part: All these poor people, believing they baught a valuable item, not even recognizing, they own only crap (except maybe years later) - and even giving positve feedback, so this sucker can easily go on with his business! (if everybody would recognize the fraud and complain, he could't go on.)

 

[Bukfan]

That's right, roni! I had that thought myself when I read the feedbacks saying how happy they were for their books with signatures.
It makes me think of a W.C. Fields quote: "Never give a sucker an even break"...

 

[RichardWagons]

Are Buk forgeries common on ebay? It seems like some of the folks around here have seen all this before.

 

[hank solo]

Not that common, but usually easy to spot.

 

[bospress.net]

Are Buk forgeries common on ebay? It seems like some of the folks around here have seen all this before.

Hi,
What Hank Solo said.... There have been a few, but since this forum has started there has not been one sold! We are always able to persuade the seller to pull it.

Black Sparrow made buying signed Bukowski books easy. Is the spine is the right color and the numbering on the colophon is right (and the title page is in color), then it is almost always authentic.

Always feel free to drop a post if you are unsure about anything, but when forgeries do show up on ebay, notice is posted here, very early.

Thanks,
Bill

 

[planahea]

Hi roni,

This belated response to your Feb. post re forger's at work on your copy of BURNING, etc. should ease your fears. Buk signed this for me personally and I can attest to his use of those big swooping loops for the letter "B". Doesn't it feel wonderful to own an original piece of his work? *S* >>>

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Regards,

planahea

 

[roni]

thanks planahea!

 

[mjp]

This belated response to your Feb. post re forger's at work on your copy of BURNING, etc. should ease your fears. Buk signed this for me personally and I can attest to his use of those big swooping loops for the letter "B".

Yeah, I think we all said yours looked genuine.

Trust me, when you see some of these fakes, you'll be chiming in with us. ;)

 

[hank solo]

There's some doozies (spell?) right now. "Signed" 'Photos' from Italy.

 

[chronic]

Don't know about that second one, but I'm almost certain that the first one really was signed by Chcles Bukseki. I'm almost sure of it.

 

[bospress.net]

Yeah. Those are what we mean by "BAD". These are the kind of things that would be all over ebay if not for the members of this forum shutting them down.

Of course, this one will probably need to be dealt with by our Italian members...

Bill

 

[mjp]

All you need is the item number to make a complaint. The link is somewhere in the spotlight thread I think...

Those are laughable.

 

[bospress.net]

file a formal complaint and spend time doing it so that ebay can ignore it....

I have found that a good "convincing" does much better....

Remember the time that a few of us filed complaints on an item and they still ignored it.

Cahoots. Cahoots, I tells ya!

Bill