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SamDusky

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Olaf said:
Cheers SamDusky,
....
Flummerist? - I can't find this word...is it a hyprid between: Florist and Flumist? i.e. flower arranger and nasal sprayer! haha!

take care sir.
nice to meet you
electronically speaking :)

Flummerist: a word I concocted as a personification from the noun Flummery, meaning ostentatious, flamboyant language; which I take always to be a great and good compliment, as I like nothing more than a wild turn of a ripping phrase and a fun usage of the language (what else is it for?) And in praise of Buk, who is the absolute master of it. I acknowledge you as one on their way to riffing with the best of them. Keep up the word-trippin?; it?s the best game in town. I always want to read language that astounds.

See ya,

SD
 

cirerita

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you know, the Spanish satirist Quevedo used to do that quite a lot back in the 15th century, making up a new word from two popular words -usually with opposed meanings. I studied this guy in highschool so I can't recall all of them, but there's one I do remember:
"Diabliposa" which comes from "diablo" (devil) + "mariposa" (butterfly). It would translate as "Devilfly" or "Buttervil", I guess.
I hate sonnets but Quevedo wrote them down in a way they didn't sound pretentious at all. He also was a master of the famous "picaresca" style.
 

SamDusky

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I always like to find myself in the best of company (Yes, I may have an inflated sense of self, but I am only humbly following the master, Buk. And I assume anyone discerning enough to be on this site is genius. Let the flames engulf me.)

Do you know of any web places where Quevedo's work is translated? (I'll take a look.)

SD
 
SamDusky said:
Flummerist: a word I concocted as a personification from the noun Flummery, meaning ostentatious, flamboyant language; which I take always to be a great and good compliment, as I like nothing more than a wild turn of a ripping phrase and a fun usage of the language (what else is it for?) And in praise of Buk, who is the absolute master of it. I acknowledge you as one on their way to riffing with the best of them. Keep up the word-trippin?; it?s the best game in town. I always want to read language that astounds.
My God, Flummery also suggests - wieghtless empty talk! Of this I am o so guilty...but I suppose in the context you speak of...it's not meant to belittle...indeed, you are committiing double Flummery when you say...'I acknowledge you as one on their way to riffing with the best of them.'

Well thank you kindly but I'm just a 23 year old man touch giddy in the head...but if I keep my pen going who knows where it might lead! Take care for now!

;)colin
 

SamDusky

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You have indeed surmised correctly that the definition of ?flummerist? that I use is on the positive side, but I also consider the art of ?Humbuggery? (not the other kind), ?empty? or ?useless? language as the height and pinnacle of the art of true communication. I say we have to slit the bonds that hold us to the grind wheel that turns all communication into instructions on how to use a VCR, DVD or can opener. The language of ostentation, puffery, wild abandon and convolution is where true art lies (or lay, I always like to mix these two up), and in the seminal writing of Bukowski (meaning he was full of seaman (sic) when he wrote?a fecund mind of the highest order, and the most potent poet of the last century, and probably this one, also) he conveyed a hard truth that can only be gotten to with a love of soaring language and his depth of feeling. His writing is as important as the First Amendment of the U. S. Constitution, in my HO. And, as my wifey says, it?s a good seduction tool?to be read prior (try it; it works).

So yes, in summation: (you got me started?I know you weren?t expecting this long-winded answer, but I?m trying to finish a piece of writing that has me stuck, and this is a good way to let off the steam); people like Buk and you and me and the brothers and sisters here, from what I?ve read of the articulate minds of the others on this site, are engaged in writing and not wiring bombs; and that answers the madness of life so much better. Riff on, young man, the Buk is at your shoulder.

SD
 
Here, here! :) I laughed several times reading your reply...but your encouragement is recieved well and good! Thank you. I have just finished watching a programme on the Iraqi war and the 'lack' of balanced reporting...largely because all the reporters and the army are stuck in the Green Zone and the 'real' Iraq situation is in the Red Zone...now more than ever are sincere words needed to cut through frigid-linear perspections at Home and Abroad - on every subject, not least of all, War.

Take care. Keep the pen rolling.

p.s. what are you writing?
 
bukowski
katherine dunn- geek love
carson mccullers
chuck palahniuk
toni morrison
celine
dostoyevski
alan ball - american beauty/six feet under
 

HenryChinaski

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okay now take heed to this list...I'm not one to toot my own horn of my literature interests but TOOT TOOT

BUK...of course

Celine, for The Journey To The End Of Night

Chuck Palahniuk, for Choke and Fight Club

John Fante, Ask The Dust and Wait Until Spring, Bandini

Fydor Dosteyovsky(sp), I don't like all of his work but Notes From The Underground and The Idiot are oldies but goodies.

Hermann Hesse, Demian

Ezra Pound for Cantos and just all around INSANE POETRY

Sylvia Plath although i thought The Bell Jar horrid

Anthony Burgess for A Clockwork Orange (the nadsat language is amazing)

Hunter S. Thompson of course

J.D. Sallinger for Catcher in the Rye, and if you havent read it you should

Carl Sandburg

Carson McCullers, The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter

Ken Kesey for One Flew Over The Cukoo's Nest

Henry Miller for The Air Conditioned Nightmare and The Smile At The Foot Of The Ladder

D.H. Lawrence

Stephen Cranes poetry

LI PO's poetry just because he was a drunken poet and fell into water and drown trying to catch his reflection on a drunken night. Check out Drinking Alone By Moonlight


the list goes on and on so I'll spare you the time.
 

bospress.net

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Hi,
Anyone here read Selby?

Also, if you are interested, check out "and the ass saw the angel" by Nick Cave. Very dark and disturbing book....

Bill
 

hoochmonkey9

Art should be its own hammer.
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bospress.net said:
Also, if you are interested, check out "and the ass saw the angel" by Nick Cave. Very dark and disturbing book....
as in Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds?
 

bospress.net

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Hi,
Yes, it is the same Nick Cave. He took some time off in the early 90's? To write this. If you are a fan of his mucos that you will love this, certainly. It is a great book either way. I have a few first editions here, but you can usually find copies on abe for next to nothing...

Bill
 

cirerita

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I might be wrong -I haven't double-checked that- but I think he wrote that piece and some other stuff in the late 80's and then performed several parts in the early 90's in Vienna and other European cities. There are several bootlegs where you can hear him reciting excerpts from those pieces. Quite interesting, though I prefer his music to the readings.
 

hank solo

Just practicin' steps and keepin' outta the fights
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hoochmonkey9 said:
as in Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds?

its weird when you are reading something like this, and then from another room you hear Nick Cave singing {'Red Right Hand'} on the soundtrack to a movie that the kids are watching...
 

bospress.net

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ha! Hearing that song in that movie always makes me laugh. Seems a bit odd to hear Nick in a movie like that! What was it? Scream 2?


Bill
 

Father Luke

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-Amy Hemple - She's tight
-Menken - Cynical
-Buk
-Dr. Thompson
(especially his political writing - and his collection of private letters)
-Anne Herbert - Brilliant writer who is not currently publishing but did a great deal of writing in the seventies

That's off the top of my head.

On my shelf I see Twain, Hemingway (especially the Nick short stories), W.S. Burroughs, Poe, Solzhenitsyn, William Faulkner, Federico Garcia Lorca, Hubert Selby, Isaac Babel, Joe R. Lansdale, Poppy Z. Brite, Raymond Chandler, Tennessee Williams, Thomas Wolfe, Fante (both), Sylvia Plath, Carver, The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry, Jim Knipfel... there are more, but I'd have to put on my glasses.
 

Father Luke

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S.A. Griffin doesn't ring a bell. But if everyone in Delaware says so, then he
must be worth at least asking for a few dollars from. How would I know him
when I see him? I call Santa Cruz, California "home".

Hey? You still have my mailing addy? I'm on the 'puter 'till about eight o'clock
tonight when I stop house sitting. I'd like to find out about your publishing
terms - - I've wanted to publish, but can't bring myself to participate in LuLu.
That's not a dig any more than not wanting to wear a Leisure suit during the
height of their fame was a dig. It's just a personal bias. Some little guy like
you appeals to me, especially since you understand the concept of
broadsides and Chap books. You would be a m a z e d at how many times
I've felt like a retarded nazi just broaching the subject with people.

By the way, of all the things in the world I would want to do while I have
access to a computer, of all the things to see, do, visit or participate in on
the World Wide Waste of time I choose bukowski.net - and I'm proud of it.

Heh.
 

bospress.net

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Hi Papa,
S.A. Griffin was co-editor of Outlaw Bible of American Poetry. He is a friend. He lives in LA, CA. Yes, I have a mailing address and will send something out on Moday.

As far as Delaware. I meant that they make statements like "he is good people"... Not that they all know him... ha!~

All best,
Bill
 

Father Luke

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bospress.net said:
Hi Papa,
S.A. Griffin was co-editor of Outlaw Bible of American Poetry. He is a friend. He lives in LA, CA.
Well, I needed to put my glasses on to remember he helped edit the book.
Interestingly, as you may know, but I'll pass it on here, Bukowski was not in
the Bible of Am. Poetry as his estate declined to grant permission. Trivia for
the forum.

bospress.net said:
Yes, I have a mailing address and will send something out on Moday.
Groovy.

bospress.net said:
As far as Delaware. I meant that they make statements like "he is good people"... Not that they all know him... ha!
Wicked kewl, d0oD - as the kids like to say. . . :D
 

bospress.net

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Father Luke said:
Bukowski was not in
the Bible of Am. Poetry as his estate declined to grant permission. Trivia for
the forum.
Hi Father,
That is not 100% true. I cannot get into it in an open forum, but permission was granted, but there were issues that kept him out of the book. It also kept one of the editors from being listed in the first edition of the book. I believe there were supposed to be 5 or 6 Bukowski poems in there. Linda approved it personally....

Bill
 

Father Luke

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Awwww, c'mon. Let's talk. Why didn't they let him in? In the preface they
said that there wasn't permission, didn't they?

There has been so much said about Grampy Buk, do we have to hazzard
guesses on this one?

Do tell... do tell.
Inquiring minds want to know.
 

Father Luke

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Fair enough.

It was interesting to see Lenny Bruce included, and I enjoyed Dr. Hunter S. Thompson's poetic addition of the moment in the restraunt in Point Richmond he spent one evening.
 
William Faulkner.

Light in August
Absalom, Absalom
As I Lay Dying
Go Down, Moses
Sanctuary

Every book a classic.
This is the way writing is supposed to be. That is what I thought when I first read Faulkner. I've since learned to enjoy a lot of different styles. Read some of the giants; Joyce, Lowry, Dostoevsky (actually Fyodor blows me away too), But nobody has knocked me over the way Faulkner did and still does, consistently, story after story.
 
You UK folks, especially you Irish and Scots have a wonderful sense of the English language, especially its alliterative possibilities, that I think comes from the way you "talk" the language every day. It's so much richer than our American versions in my opinion. Anyway, my favorites living include Jamie O'Neill, Paul West, Pat Barker, E.L. Doctorow, Stephen Fry, Carlos Fuentes, Cormac McCarthy, Edmund White; dead = John Fante, Paul Bowles, Bukowski, Alfred Chester, John Cheever, E.M. Forster, lots of the Victorians, especially Jane Austen, yes, that's right, Austen, and I'll kick anyone's ass who snickers (ok maybe I'm a little overdefensive there) and Trollope, Jean Genet, Gerard Manley Hopkins (keep him close by at all times), Somerset Maugham, Pasolini, Gertrude Stein, Evelyn Waugh and Sir Walter Scott, HAH!
 

hank solo

Just practicin' steps and keepin' outta the fights
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MarkDB said:
...lots of the Victorians, especially Jane Austen...
Todays history lesson: Jane Austen died 2 years before Victoria was born. George III was the reigning monarch from 1760 to 1820.

Not that I'm a Royalist or anything!

The Buk is dead. Long live the Buk!
 
S

Slobodan Burgher

For me its particularly these guys:

L.F. Celine
K. Hamsun
F. Dostoijevsky
H. Miller
W.S. Burroughs
E. Hemingway
 
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