jordan
lothario speedwagon
what forum is that? i wanna read...
Horsebucket?
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what forum is that? i wanna read...
bospress.net
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Hi,
It is an email list that has to do with book arts.
http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=BOOK_ARTS-L&H=LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
It is not a bad list. Much better than the folks at letpress, which can range from old school racist conservatives to liberals that let the racists say what they want without calling them out. One guy, for example, posted about how a friend of his shoots at hispanics in his US border town for fun. Instead of calling the cops on this guy, he mentioned it in a way that made it look like he understood the frustration that led him to attempted murder of desperate, poor people struggling for a better life in a country that hates them.
I called him out in a strong way, but the rest of the 1200 members sat o their hands. This was after being called a pinko commie who went to Canada to avoid the Viet Nam draft. It just goes to show you the mindset of these people. If you do not agree that the Iraq invasion was a swell idea, then you are a pinko commie draft dodger. I thought that it was funny as I was 3 when the Viet Nam war ended. Plus, only seriously old, out of touch people still use the term "pinko commie". He also called me lily livered for not loving war. The best part is that I had to look up the term on Websters.com as I am too young to talk like an old man.
Best wishes,
sincerely,
your humble and obedient servant,
Bill
It is an email list that has to do with book arts.
http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=BOOK_ARTS-L&H=LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
It is not a bad list. Much better than the folks at letpress, which can range from old school racist conservatives to liberals that let the racists say what they want without calling them out. One guy, for example, posted about how a friend of his shoots at hispanics in his US border town for fun. Instead of calling the cops on this guy, he mentioned it in a way that made it look like he understood the frustration that led him to attempted murder of desperate, poor people struggling for a better life in a country that hates them.
I called him out in a strong way, but the rest of the 1200 members sat o their hands. This was after being called a pinko commie who went to Canada to avoid the Viet Nam draft. It just goes to show you the mindset of these people. If you do not agree that the Iraq invasion was a swell idea, then you are a pinko commie draft dodger. I thought that it was funny as I was 3 when the Viet Nam war ended. Plus, only seriously old, out of touch people still use the term "pinko commie". He also called me lily livered for not loving war. The best part is that I had to look up the term on Websters.com as I am too young to talk like an old man.
Best wishes,
sincerely,
your humble and obedient servant,
Bill
mjp
Founding member
The "Anti-War" card set started out as a call for contributions on the LETPRES list, and it quickly devolved into a bitch fest with myself and the organizer of the set speaking against dozens of those fossils who were beside themselves with rage that we would have the nerve to doubt the fine president and his fine war. That was back in 2002. I'm sure they haven't changed their minds. Their minds are too atrophied to change.
I always imagine them wearing those blousy old shirts with the sleeve guard/suspenders, green celluloid visors or straw hats, and handlebar moustaches - like a barbershop quartet - wandering around the grocery store with pica rulers sticking out of their pockets, shouting about the outrageous prices.
I always imagine them wearing those blousy old shirts with the sleeve guard/suspenders, green celluloid visors or straw hats, and handlebar moustaches - like a barbershop quartet - wandering around the grocery store with pica rulers sticking out of their pockets, shouting about the outrageous prices.
this'll work pretty well, I'm sure.
Shit! I'm glad I didn't post anything on that list, even though I do sometimes shoot at the Chinese. Those dang Chinese, inventing their fireworks and building our railroads! How dare they! They don't belong here among us cowboys and mountain men! ...Us Brokeback Mountain cowboy men.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they hate gays too. I know that they seem to have issues with anyone that is not white, American, conservative, Christian.
They also seem to have a serious disdain for people like me who dare to print letterpress without having learned it from a master printer in the 1940's. To them "newbies" with our deep impression printing are no better than those people coming over the border to get our marvelous free healthcare. You would think that they would be happy to see a new generation fall in love with printing, but they see it as an insult that we would dare think that we have any talent.
Bill
mjp
Founding member
I just saw the German language version of Horsebucket, and I while I don't speak German, many of the words looked funny, which only added to the innate humor. Apparently there will be two copies done in German, three in Spanish. The things I learn when I venture into her studio...
mjp
Founding member
Yeah, a friend of hers spent some time translating it. She wanted to make sure the intention behind the words carried through. It's interesting that it took so long to do such a small bit of text. It makes you (me) wonder about literary translations - how many original intentions are lost.
justine
stop the penistry
i honestly did not read this thread till now - i knew i was getting carol's book but i didn't know a thing about it and i really did want to be surprised on my birthday... and i was!
carol, i LOVE your book, it's beautiful.
E: Arrived today; can't open until Thursday "”#DANG! PSYCHED!!!
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reason #721 why I hate the post office:
but otherwise, the book is beautiful.
but otherwise, the book is beautiful.
that's the thing, it was well packed. I made a sweater and a pair of gaucho pants out of all the bubble wrap. but the box looked like the post office tied a string to it and attached it to the back of the truck and dragged it all the way across North America.
thanks for the kind offer, perhaps too kind, so maybe I can chip in some more to offset your costs?
let me know.
thanks for the kind offer, perhaps too kind, so maybe I can chip in some more to offset your costs?
let me know.
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Genius of the Post Office
(with a nod to Hank)
not being able to create art
they will seek to destroy art
(with a nod to Hank)
not being able to create art
they will seek to destroy art
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The book may be able to be repaired without too much trouble. If the box can be replaced, then it may not be a total loss.
Yes, it is painful when you bust your ass for art and then someone destroys it with their carelessness.
Bill
Yes, it is painful when you bust your ass for art and then someone destroys it with their carelessness.
Bill
yes, I was pissed. my wife saw me come steaming up the stairs with the beat-up shipping box and said 'uh oh.'
uh oh indeed.
and what really pisses me off is that I got copy #9. 9 is my favourite number.
uh oh indeed.
and what really pisses me off is that I got copy #9. 9 is my favourite number.
justine
stop the penistry
the box itself might be beyond repair, but i ~think~ (disclaimer: I AM NOT A BOOK ARTS CONSERVATIONIST) that if you lightly dampened some paper towels, layered them with some DRY paper towels along each page and used a bone fold to rub out the creases, maybe that could work. i will see if i can get hold of my best friend who IS an actual conservationist. alternatively, if the creases aren't on any text or image you could try ironing them out: put the iron on its lowest setting, cover the book with a clean towel/layers of paper towels and briefly/gently press the pages, performing frequent checks on the progress.
double-posting here....
just wanted to say something that might have got lost in my anger at the post office:
it's a great book. funny and honest and odd. the good kind of odd.
really liked the "If only change were easy," "HORSEBUCKET!" and International House of Pancakes dog pages.
and Carol's business card is very cool. I might have to [STRIKE]steal[/STRIKE] borrow that idea.
just wanted to say something that might have got lost in my anger at the post office:
it's a great book. funny and honest and odd. the good kind of odd.
really liked the "If only change were easy," "HORSEBUCKET!" and International House of Pancakes dog pages.
and Carol's business card is very cool. I might have to [STRIKE]steal[/STRIKE] borrow that idea.
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You may be able to do as Justine says. The book looks like it wants to be repaired...
Bill
Bill
justine
stop the penistry
the other thing i would add is: PROCEED WITH CAUTION. i can't emphasise this enough. only dampen the paper towels the slightest bit, and don't let them come into contact directly with the book. i actually think doing this, combined with the iron trick, could be a really good fix.
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I would try to iron it on a medium setting without using any water first. Then slowly up the heat. Water scares me around books. Usually you have to wet the whole paper, so Justine is right, you want the slight moisture without any actual water.
I guess that the first thing that I would do is to put it under a heavy weight for a couple days. A stack of books would work.
Bill
I guess that the first thing that I would do is to put it under a heavy weight for a couple days. A stack of books would work.
Bill