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hey flaco. welcome.
I'd move if I were you, your neighbour doesn't seem the friendly sort.
glad you're here.
I'd move if I were you, your neighbour doesn't seem the friendly sort.
glad you're here.
Gerard K H Love
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Welcome flaco. Since you've been on board for awhile you know there's a beer thread and a boozer's thread.
I'm glad to hear you have a vicious cat. My dog was afraid of our cat but she died.
Where are you and how did you find Bukowski?
I'm glad to hear you have a vicious cat. My dog was afraid of our cat but she died.
Where are you and how did you find Bukowski?
Hey, Gerard. Thanks. Sorry to hear about your kitty's demise. My Amos is 17 and he's healthy enough that I don't worry about him, but not sure how much longer I will enjoy his company.
I live below the Red River and above the Rio Grande. Northwest of the Gulf of Mexico.
I'm ashamed to admit that the film Barfly was my introduction to the man. After that I picked up Notes of a Dirty Old Man and Ordinary Tales of Madness which lured me into his poetry. I think I'm ready for his other works. Going by what I've been reading around here I believe I need to pick up Ham on Rye next.
I live below the Red River and above the Rio Grande. Northwest of the Gulf of Mexico.
I'm ashamed to admit that the film Barfly was my introduction to the man. After that I picked up Notes of a Dirty Old Man and Ordinary Tales of Madness which lured me into his poetry. I think I'm ready for his other works. Going by what I've been reading around here I believe I need to pick up Ham on Rye next.
Bukfan
"The law is wrong; I am right"
Welome to the forum, flaco! You're living below the Red River and above the Rio Grande? That'll be Texas, right?
Barfly was a good movie and it served a good purpose - introducing people to Bukowski.
Ham On Rye is a great novel. I'm sure you'll like it.
Barfly was a good movie and it served a good purpose - introducing people to Bukowski.
Ham On Rye is a great novel. I'm sure you'll like it.
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Father Luke
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Yo!
Skinny d0oD!
'sup?
Ham on Rye fer shure. . .
Skinny d0oD!
'sup?
Ham on Rye fer shure. . .
Gerard K H Love
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flaco Do you live near Waco?
Having lived in Texas several times, I can see why you think your neighbor is a serial killer. Amos is a good name for a cat. He'll live into his 20s. Enjoy your stay here and enjoy the fine reading.
Having lived in Texas several times, I can see why you think your neighbor is a serial killer. Amos is a good name for a cat. He'll live into his 20s. Enjoy your stay here and enjoy the fine reading.
Hey man, you needn't be ashamed of any reason to get into Buk. I would say that everything but the real writing is so much fluff for me, but that's just me. Read it all.
And welcome.
And welcome.
Hey, thanks all.
james -- Yes, good idea. I may attempt to do the reading chronologically.
Bukfan -- Yeah, Texas.
Father Luke -- The price of gas and food are up while the value of the dollar is down. The warmongers are up in arms while... aw, crap. Don't get me started.
Gerard -- Not too far from Waco. Don't pin me down, "sheriff's on my trail" :eek:
Purple Stickpin -- Help me out. What exactly (or inexactly) is the real writing and which is the fluff?
james -- Yes, good idea. I may attempt to do the reading chronologically.
Bukfan -- Yeah, Texas.
Father Luke -- The price of gas and food are up while the value of the dollar is down. The warmongers are up in arms while... aw, crap. Don't get me started.
Gerard -- Not too far from Waco. Don't pin me down, "sheriff's on my trail" :eek:
Purple Stickpin -- Help me out. What exactly (or inexactly) is the real writing and which is the fluff?
I didn't express that very well. What I meant was that Buk's written words are really all that's important to me. None of his writing is fluff to me; I was getting at the readings mostly. Buk always wrote about how much he hated doing readings, and from what I've seen, I think I enjoy them about as much as he did.
You mentioned that you got into Buk by seeing Barfly. In my opinion, that's one of his very few weak works. Mainly because it's the same sort of story he wrote about brilliantly elsewhere, but he had to fit it into a genre that I don't think suited him all that well. It's not a bad movie, especially compared to much of the drivel out there, but compared to the brilliance of the rest of Buk's stuff, it really pales in comparison to me. And let's face it, in the late 50s-early 60s, Buk wasn't hanging with the likes of Faye Dunaway.
Anyway, personally, I would save Ham on Rye for a bit later. I read that well after reading Post Office, Factotum and Women. It really worked for me to see who he was first, and then read Ham on Rye for a more complete explanation of why/how he got there. If you'd prefer to read his life more chronologically (in terms of novels), read in order: Ham on Rye, Factotum, Post Office, Women. Pulp takes place in another time continuum. ;)
Don't forget South of No North either.
Just some thoughts
And I don't always listen very well. :rolleyes: I see where I coulda followed the segue from my remarks to your original post re: Barfly.
Gotcha.
Oops. I did fail to mention that I have read that. So much for taking it all in chronologically.
And I do appreciate them.
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don't forget Hollywood. Some people like it. I'm not too fond of it. Still, it falls in right after Women chronologically, I suppose...
Bill
Now how the hell did I forget Hollywood?
bospress.net
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because it is forgettable...
ouch!
Bill
ouch!
Bill
mjp
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I guess it's funnier if you live in Los Angles and cross paths with those types from time to time.
But I think Hollywood is easily his funniest book. The descriptions of the house Barbet was living in in Venice, with the chickens and the kids robbing them and people living under the house - oh man.
But I think Hollywood is easily his funniest book. The descriptions of the house Barbet was living in in Venice, with the chickens and the kids robbing them and people living under the house - oh man.
Excellent. I envy you getting to read those for the first time.:cool:
Haven't gotten too deep into Ham on Rye yet. Had family stuff to do today. Anti-Bukowskiville, USA.
So, two votes for and one against Hollywood. Well, I dig funny and think that even some of Bukowski's sad poems have a humorous edge, so I'll definitely squeeze it in as well. Pro'lly should read 'em all as has been suggested anyway.
Peace.
So, two votes for and one against Hollywood. Well, I dig funny and think that even some of Bukowski's sad poems have a humorous edge, so I'll definitely squeeze it in as well. Pro'lly should read 'em all as has been suggested anyway.
Peace.
I see the humor coming through in Ham On Rye. This Chinaski dude puts up with a lot of crap yet endures the mundane and hypocritical. I love the dialogue in the hospital when initially diagnosed with the acne vulgaris.
"Is he asleep?"
"Why?"
"He seems very calm."
"No, I don't think he's asleep. Are you asleep, my boy?"
"Yes."
Good stuff.
"Is he asleep?"
"Why?"
"He seems very calm."
"No, I don't think he's asleep. Are you asleep, my boy?"
"Yes."
Good stuff.
It was the Shiner Bock that gave Texas away to me prior to the general landmarks. Can you only get that piss water in the Lone Star State still.
(Actually, I don' t think it's piss water. It's actually a real decent beer)
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Father Luke
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