John Edwards - is he worth it?

Father Luke

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Gerard K H Love

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Father Luke You're A Good ol' boy!

Great picture, like so many others you have posted. I think Bush should have been wearing the same outfit as the pope. Only with a long pointed hat.
Oh yes, I voted for him. That was then this is now. I'm voting for Oprah.
 

mjp

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...I will go to my grave believing that Gore (or most anybody else) would have been smart enough to stay the hell out of Iraq after 9-11.
Yes, that was certainly a Bush-only operation, considering there was no reason whatsoever to invade the country. Where I suppose we differ is that I don't think the invasion of Iraq has changed the eventual course of history of that particular region. The tribal hatreds and religious idiocy run far too deep there, and they have for some time. What's changing is the weapons available to the different factions. So......hello Pakistan! Boom boom, out go the lights. Big trouble over there is not a question of if, but when.

And I just heard on NPR that John Edwards is pretty much a non-factor already. Sorry Roni. That's American politics for you. If 150,000 people in IOWA - for christ's sake - give you the thumbs down, you get the stink of failure on you and have to fight your way back (it's not impossible though: B. Clinton did not win the Iowa or New Hampshire primaries, but was nominated anyway).
 
Well if we're talking politics
Regarding Palistan
My Canadian perspective
Here is what I sent to my local newspaper.
To their credit they printed the whole thing.


Pity Pakistan. Yesterday (Dec.28) was Musharref's lucky day. The opposition is dead, the terrorists vilified and Stephan Harper says the Pakistan election scheduled for Jan. 8 is important to democracy and called on President Pervez Musharraf to let it go ahead as scheduled. Is Harper the only one who doesn't know the election is rigged?



Forget that the opposition is dead, the legal establishment imprisoned, and the country is in mourning for 4 days. Harpers says go ahead. To support an election in Pakistan is the same, the exact same, as supporting Hitler after the Reichstag fire. Like Hitler, Musharraf has ridded himself of any opposition and blamed the terrorists (in1933 it was the communists). But he actually improves on the Hitler gambit, since his government actively supports the terror infrastructure. Don't belief me go to the.dawn.com an English language paper originating out of Pakistan. Musharraf is the biggest obstacle facing a democratic Pakistan today yet Harper says go forward. What's insulting is that Harper expects us to believe this nonsense. Are we really this stupid? When we say we support democracy what do we really mean?


Al Qaida and the Taliban those responsible for killing good Canadian boys are being supported by Musharraf and Harpers insistence that this election be held is an insult to every Canadian family represented on the highway for heroes. Instead Harper should, like every other proud Pakistani national, say boycott the election and free the lawyers still under house arrest. Ah but that would be anti American

To support a rigged election (which is a tacit support of Musharraf since he is doing the rigging) is not promoting democracy it is promoting tyranny and Canadians have a choice and a responsibility to say no. The days of being America's whore without impunity are over. In a few months time politicians will be asking for our votes. Now is the time to put their character, those we elect to serve us, to the test. Those that do not denounce Harper must be assumed as supporting his mercenary position. And let's be clear Harpers position is perceived as being Canada's position. Harper has revealed his intent. He will support the American machine at the expense of, not in the defence of, democracy. Is that Canadian? Or are we comfortable pretending to be something we are not. One thing is certain. Absolute. The women and men wearing the Canadian uniform fighting to preserve our freedom a freedom wanted by those in Pakistan too deserve better from him and should receive better from us.



The question is always asked what can be done. Begin today by calling the Brantford Conservative Riding headquarters and ask if they agree with Stephan Harper and why? And then ask every friend on youtube myspace and facebook to do the same in their riding. Demand those that want to serve us (which is the only role of those elected) state their position.

If the Expositor had any journalistic cojenes it would publish the answers of every potential politician on the front page. Then we could decide. That would be most democratic. Crisis reveals character. Harper has shown his. Now is the time to show our character. If not now, when? If not us, who? We must speak for those still in prison. We must.

Those that do not denounce Harper for his support of this rigged election are the same the exact same as those who remained silent while Hitler was given over reaching powers. Regardless, as in 1933, the chickens will come home to roost.
 

mjp

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The days of being America's whore without impunity are over.
Hey, we'll tell you when Canada is no longer our whore!

I know a big chunk of the world looks at the U.S. and G.B. as being in bed together, but I wonder if the same impression of the U.S. and Canada exists out there? I really don't see Canada as blindly following the U.S. in anything...
 

ROC

It is what it is
I wonder if the same impression of the U.S. and Canada exists out there?

Not from my perspective as an Aussie.
Canada comes across as a northern hemisphere New Zealand... if that makes any sense.
Quite independent and marching to the beat of a somewhat unique drummer.

Of course I'm a very long way away.
 

Father Luke

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I've always loved the humor my Friends to the North poke at us
dumb hicks here in the states.

here is a YouTube segment. Not as funny as some, but
representative of what i find charming about our differences.

 

hoochmonkey9

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Father, that clip seems to be Australian. at least the interviewer is Australian, I think. Australia is north? ;)
 

Father Luke

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I found the series I was looking for.
It's by Ric Mercer.

If you've never seen it, it is . . .

it is . . .

uh. . .

I like it.

 

hoochmonkey9

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Rick Mercer is most certainly Canadian. from Newfoundland. most of my family is from Newfoundland, via Ireland.
but really, there are idiots everywhere. Canada and Ireland included (not me, of course).
 

ROC

It is what it is
We have idiots in Australia as well (I thinks?)
But nothing to compare with the calibre of idiots in that clip.
They are so stupid it's breathtaking.
And yes, the guy with the mic is definitely an Aussie.

Let's invade Italy!
 

chronic

old and in the way
The Rick Mercer thing was really funny. "Canada... our eskimo neighbors to the south" indeed. Thank you for the link. As usual, when I look at something on YouTube it leads to something else:

 

Bukfan

"The law is wrong; I am right"
I've always loved the humor my Friends to the North poke at us
dumb hicks here in the states.

here is a YouTube segment. Not as funny as some, but
representative of what i find charming about our differences.


Very funny video clip...and a bit scary too!
 
If I had to identify myself politically in some specific way I would say I'm an anarchist. I like to think that Buk was one too...

The Democrats will surely disappoint once again (whether they win the presidency or not). I can say so without frustration as I gave up counting on them long ago.
 
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