Me and Your Sometimes Love Poems..

[mjp]

Too late.

The original blow off is enough to keep me away. What if it happens again but the buyer doesn't say anything here? How many times has it happened before? Sending the book now doesn't change the initial weirdness. He's only sending it now because of this thread, or because others here have spoken to him off line and advised him to reconsider.

Whatever the arm twisting consisted of, his initial reaction is what bothers me. You should be able to trust that an auction win won't be yanked out from under you because you dared to ask a question. I don't know the guy, and he seems to have a good rep, so maybe it was just a bad day, who knows. What bothers me about this is that now maybe someone is going to read this thread and hold back from asking a legitimate question in the future.

 

[roni]

my second printing says 100 copies, not 500. Does it say "500 for the second printing " in the third printing?

Yeah, ...

It seems, they've made more copies of the second than they first intended. The original 'second Printing' definitely says: "100 Copies signed" and nothing about another 400 unsigned.

But then - even these appear to have numbers higher than 100 ...

 

[cirerita]

My copy -2nd ed., which Linda kindly gave me when I interviewed her when I was a kid- reads:
First Edition 1971 [50 copies]
Second Edition 1994 500 copies
100 copies signed by Linda King.

 

[mjp]

Something tells me that even Linda wouldn't know how many copies of the second and third are out there. I would think - excluding the first edition which we know was slightly less than 100 copies - that there are still less than 500 copies out there. But since she just seems to create more when needed it's hard to pin down numbers. Still, it's good that you can still get it for a reasonable price, no matter how many copies she makes in the end.


[The rest of this discussion that went off topic is here.]

 

[nervas]

Well, to finish this thread and it's original content.... I did receive the book from seller with a little surprise inside. He sent my 21 bucks back in cash, inside of the book. Now I can say, in 11 years, definately the strangest eBay transaction I was ever involved in.

 

[bospress.net]

I have said it before. The seller is a good guy.

Bill

 

[Purple Stickpin]

Well, things certainly came full circle (and them some). Chalk it up to a quick negative reaction and misinterpretation followed by a better than good-faith gesture. I certainly take back my comments about doing business with him in the future.

 

[willrodgers]

i'd be extremely hard pressed to NOT leave him a negative following the end of this debacle.

 

[nervas]

Thing is, it's obvious that he only sent it because of this thread. But then again, he only threatened not to send it because of this thread. Honestly I think mjp said it best, it kinda puts a negative on really asking questions here, for fear someone might pull this again. I for one, would not ask a question about the authenticity of a item again. For simple fear someone would say it's real, then I'd get blamed for ruining a reputation. So next time, I'd wait till I get in the mail then ask, and if its a fake, well then I guess I'm SOL.

 

[bospress.net]

This forum had nothing to do with him sending you the book and money. He did it because he wanted to do it. Leaving him a negative would be a truly shitty thing to do after he sent you the book and sent it to you with a full refund.

Bill

 

[nervas]

Well I agree and disagree. I had no intention of leaving negative feedback at all. Wasn't going to and it never crossed my mind. But I do think he sent it only after people on here said they wouldn't buy from him again. But I could be wrong, if you ask my girlfriend, I'm wrong 100% of the time and she's a pretty smart girl!

 

[bospress.net]

But I do think he sent it only after people on here said they wouldn't buy from him again.

I don't think that him sending you the book and refund changed that, so if that was his motive, then it would have failed. Those that will buy from him will still buy from him and those that will not, will not.

Bill

 

[d gray]

i think after he cooled off he probably just realized he may have overreacted and had the moxie to try and make up for it.

 

[Purple Stickpin]

I don't think that him sending you the book and refund changed that, so if that was his motive, then it would have failed. Those that will buy from him will still buy from him and those that will not, will not.

If you check my posts, that's exactly what it did for me. Call me fickle, but his initial actions were enough for me to avoid him in the future (and to proclaim that here), and his final actions are honorable enough for me to reverse that position (and also proclaim that here) and to look at it just as Mr. Gray states below:

i think after he cooled off he probably just realized he may have overreacted and had the moxie to try and make up for it.

I would agree that negative feedback would be inappropriate given the resolution of the situation, not the unfolding of it.

 

[mjp]

Everyone is entitled to make amends for whatever kind of penistry they've engaged in, and that should be enough. Apologizing is difficult, and in the end he did the right thing.

But his initial reaction had a negative effect on the freedom to speak here, however slight an effect, and my fear is that effect is going to linger unpleasantly, despite the final outcome.

"Hey man, sorry I punched you in the nose - here, have a beer." Okay, sure, but nose is still going to hurt for a while.

 

[bospress.net]

It is true that people need to feel free to ask questions. In this case, the authenticity was pretty quickly confirmed.

Yes, please keep asking these questions. There are many of us here who make every effort to have all bullshit items removed from ebay. If this book had been a forgery, it would be one that we would have removed.

It is important that people that come here can rely on the experts to confirm authenticity, when possible.

I know that we have had luck in getting forgeries removed in the past. This is important.

Bill

 

[Purple Stickpin]

Everyone is entitled to make amends for whatever kind of penistry they've engaged in, and that should be enough. Apologizing is difficult, and in the end he did the right thing.

But his initial reaction had a negative effect on the freedom to speak here, however slight an effect, and my fear is that effect is going to linger unpleasantly, despite the final outcome.

"Hey man, sorry I punched you in the nose - here, have a beer." Okay, sure, but nose is still going to hurt for a while.

I agree entirely, and I took this issue into account when I made my "final judgement," if you will. Not that my judgement is all that important, but I do occasionally like to explain why I said one thing and then the opposite.

I may be out on a limb, but I suspect that the seller not only knew he did wrong, but also knows that questioning an item's status as genuine is a valid question. My point on this is:

Ask the question before you buy the item, not after, and if a seller has an issue with the question, then he/she should be more than happy to sit on it and not sell it. I, for one, will continue to ask if I want to. The buyer has more leverage than the seller, and that's how it always should be.

Attica! Attica!

;)

 

[Gerard K H Love]

Well I agree and disagree. I had no intention of leaving negative feedback at all. Wasn't going to and it never crossed my mind. But I do think he sent it only after people on here said they wouldn't buy from him again. But I could be wrong, if you ask my girlfriend, I'm wrong 100% of the time and she's a pretty smart girl!

It's nice to be nice. You are right to not leave negative feedback, no one likes a complainer.
When you marry the pretty smart girl then we will know you are a pretty smart guy. Good job on that. My wife thinks I'm wrong most of the time too.;)