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Rekrab
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Yeah, how many of those could there be?
Here's another clue: Charles Manson and William S. Burroughs also have writings in the same magazine, along with a few others. The mag is not listed in Bukowski.net's database. And, there are Montfort photos. Buk, Manson and Montfort are printed without permission, according to red ink stamped notices across the pages.
Here's another clue: Charles Manson and William S. Burroughs also have writings in the same magazine, along with a few others. The mag is not listed in Bukowski.net's database. And, there are Montfort photos. Buk, Manson and Montfort are printed without permission, according to red ink stamped notices across the pages.
HarryC13
RIP
Wow, that's great, David! I have no idea about the editor and the magazine, but Martin's actions are all too familiar as we know from my experience! (While for some reason I don't have the original snippy letter that Martin sent me warning me away from publishing more Bukowski, I do still have his letter dated October 31, 1985, much more conciliatory and offering me a ton of Black Sparrow books, all of which I still have.)
If this was back in the days when I was publishing, it could have been any number of litmags ... both Ron Androla's Northern Pleasure and Steve Doering's Random Weirdness published quite a bit of Bukowski in those days. Naturally, Wormwood did too, but it would not have been Marvin. Broadsides? The incendiary nature of publishing the letters in a broadside would lead me to guess Kurt Nimmo and Planet Detroit. Probably wrong, but at least it's a guess. :)
Ambreen
Sordide Sentimental
The hippie psycho ?!
pandemonium!!! no really, shit's gettin' crazy around here....
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=bukowski&sts=t&tn=pandemonium&x=0&y=0
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=bukowski&sts=t&tn=pandemonium&x=0&y=0
HarryC13
RIP
Sorry, just my feeble attempt at humor. As in, "No, it's not Charles Manson the hippie killer, it's Charles Manson the gentle organic gardener!" :)
But it does look like James has answered the question!
Rekrab
Usually wrong.
You got the magazine name. I thought maybe that clue would lead to the ABE listing for pandemonium. But what was the title of the poem?
Rekrab
Usually wrong.
Great guess. I hear Kurt's name mentioned almost daily on the Alex Jones radio show. Kurt now writes political commentary and news for Alex. Kurt's been on the show a few times. I wonder if he still has any interest in the small press scene, poetry, all that?
I just want the damn magazine....
Gerard K H Love
Appreciate your friends
Manson is only as tough as the people he could control, otherwise he is a whacked out pile of bat shit.
Gerard K H Love
Appreciate your friends
Here's what he . Rekrab, you could take him, remember he's a very short guy.
I think there is a limit to how much LSD you can take, the chronic video proves that.
I think there is a limit to how much LSD you can take, the chronic video proves that.
oh yea, i forgot the original question. don't know the poem.
edit: i believe the poem is "renewal".
also, i didn't use abe to find the answer, just to confirm my guess. as soon as you mentioned manson and burroughs, the cover of pandemonium popped in my head, with all of their portraits on the cover like mug shots.
edit: i believe the poem is "renewal".
also, i didn't use abe to find the answer, just to confirm my guess. as soon as you mentioned manson and burroughs, the cover of pandemonium popped in my head, with all of their portraits on the cover like mug shots.
And the US public feeds, clothes and houses this maggot.
Great candidate for "shot whilst trying to escape".
Rekrab
Usually wrong.
James, you're the winner! Even if you had found the name of the magazine using ABE, that would count as decent detective work in my book, but as it popped in your head, you get the proverbial gold star (do teachers still do that?) Yes, the poem is titled "renewal." The Buknet database shows it as unpublished manuscript. There's another poem in there as well. I'll post its title so mjp can add them to the database under Pandemonium -- or does unauthorized not count as published?
Rekrab
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It's not Manson himself physically that would scare me if I were the editor who had published him without permission. It's his influence in the prison network and its extensions into the outside world. You don't want a guy in his position pissed at you.
well alright! here we go:
in an interview from the late 80s, bukowski states: "XXXXX XXXX's a strange fellow. he doesn't put on much of a hot-shot front. he just sits around depressed. and i make him more depressed. i say, "XXXXX, for chrissakes, it's no so bad." when you're feeling bad and someone says that, you only feel worse."
who is he speaking of? bonus points and 3 gold stars for naming what publication the interview's from.
in an interview from the late 80s, bukowski states: "XXXXX XXXX's a strange fellow. he doesn't put on much of a hot-shot front. he just sits around depressed. and i make him more depressed. i say, "XXXXX, for chrissakes, it's no so bad." when you're feeling bad and someone says that, you only feel worse."
who is he speaking of? bonus points and 3 gold stars for naming what publication the interview's from.
you are correct, sir! harry dean stanton is one strange, cool old fellow.
although, no gold stars for you, even though your source is legit. i actually got the interview excerpt from Film Comment magazine, august 1987 issue. they're interviewing buk about Barfly, etc and asked if he's "known people who've worked in movies".
although, no gold stars for you, even though your source is legit. i actually got the interview excerpt from Film Comment magazine, august 1987 issue. they're interviewing buk about Barfly, etc and asked if he's "known people who've worked in movies".
HarryC13
RIP
Hey David, have been out of touch with Kurt Nimmo for years but I still hear his name occasionally. What a character. Of course, we go way back into the 80s when he was doing Planet Detroit and I was putting out Pig in a Poke. Little-known small-press trivia fact: Back in 1996 or so, Nimmo was putting out an online poetry zine called PNG (which stood for "persona non grata.") He was doing the dual roles of Webmaster and editor and it was wearing him out. So he asked me if I would edit the mag and he would stick with the Web hosting.
Long story short, it never happened. Kurt moved (from Detroit to Chicago, I believe) and we lost track of each other. But somehow he never got around to pulling down the site, and after all these years, I still get e-mail occasionally from people responding to the call for submissions! Here's the link, which contains the call for submissions and the last issue of PNG ... some great stuff in there from Lyn Lifshin, Michael Estabrook and others.
http://members.cruzio.com/~png/
Don't know if Nimmo is still involved in poetry. I Googled him and he's now living in New Mexico ... maybe I'll renew acquaintances. :)
Rekrab
Usually wrong.
The last I heard, Kurt had stirred up emotions with a controversial political blog he'd written and was getting serious threats. He went into hiding, more or less, and became hard to contact. This was a year or two ago. I lost touch with him probably in the late 80s.
HarryC13
RIP
Trivia question
I'm so unaccustomed to getting the right answer to the trivia question that I almost forgot to ask my own. To make up for my negligence, let me ask two. Anyone who gets both right gets bonus points which you can redeem ... uh, OK, nowhere. You just get the satisfaction.
Anyway, the first one should be fairly easy. Which character is Bukowski talking about when he says, "... since he never talked and he never touched money I could neither expect an answer nor could I pay him"? And from which book does the quote come?
Second question: In "Six Inches" (from Erections,Ejaculations etc. and The Most Beautiful Woman in Town and Other Stories, how did Bukowski's character kill Sarah the witch?
Good luck!
I'm so unaccustomed to getting the right answer to the trivia question that I almost forgot to ask my own. To make up for my negligence, let me ask two. Anyone who gets both right gets bonus points which you can redeem ... uh, OK, nowhere. You just get the satisfaction.
Anyway, the first one should be fairly easy. Which character is Bukowski talking about when he says, "... since he never talked and he never touched money I could neither expect an answer nor could I pay him"? And from which book does the quote come?
Second question: In "Six Inches" (from Erections,Ejaculations etc. and The Most Beautiful Woman in Town and Other Stories, how did Bukowski's character kill Sarah the witch?
Good luck!
Ambreen
Sordide Sentimental
(So the Charles Manson mentioned is the psycho one ? Wow ! I wonder what kind of bullshits he wrote...
His adepts, especially the girls singing during his trial, were much more frightening than him.
And Ted Bundy was much more charismatic than him.)
I find the second question easier : He pierced her heart with a hat pin. Ouch.
Sarah the witch...I also think to this one : http://observers.france24.com/files/images/palin_witch_teaser.jpg :D
His adepts, especially the girls singing during his trial, were much more frightening than him.
And Ted Bundy was much more charismatic than him.)
I find the second question easier : He pierced her heart with a hat pin. Ouch.
Sarah the witch...I also think to this one : http://observers.france24.com/files/images/palin_witch_teaser.jpg :D
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Hey Harry didn't you already ask this question before? Well sort of...
HERE:eek:
so I will say Drayer Baba from Women. p267
Rekrab
Usually wrong.
It's been years since I read the magazine, but the Manson contributions are his letters to the editor, and they are out there. I recall being creeped out when I read it.
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Ambreen
Sordide Sentimental
Come on David, a tough guy like you, a man who survived after his idol spit in his face :D