In that case Dubya should have gotten it years ago ;)
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Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize
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John Pilger doesn't seem too happy:
http://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2009/10/obama-pilger-war-peace
http://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2009/10/obama-pilger-war-peace
No, that's next years winner.
In all seriousness, it's ridiculous. Where is the peace he's created? As has been prevalent with any super power, his rhetoric comes with an attached laser-point. He may well have good intentions, but it's not as if he can say 'Well, let's do this' and actually do it. When he actually sorts out the Middle East conflict, or brings stability to Afghanistan or Iraq, well, then I'd at least say there's some basis.
I think just maybe the Nobel comittee got caught up in Obama's slogan
'Yes we can' when making their decision.
In all seriousness, it's ridiculous. Where is the peace he's created? As has been prevalent with any super power, his rhetoric comes with an attached laser-point. He may well have good intentions, but it's not as if he can say 'Well, let's do this' and actually do it. When he actually sorts out the Middle East conflict, or brings stability to Afghanistan or Iraq, well, then I'd at least say there's some basis.
I think just maybe the Nobel comittee got caught up in Obama's slogan
'Yes we can' when making their decision.
Black Swan
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Gerard K H Love
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Rekrab
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Maybe they meant Oprah and got the names garbled. It would make as much sense.
To my friends who are big Obama supporters, please don't think I'm down on the guy. I voted for him, I like him. He's smart, he's articulate, he's personable. He's funny. He's tall. He's hip. He's a good family man. But I'm still in a wait and see mode. He talks a good game but I want to see what actually happens under his watch. I hope I have to eat my words later and admit I must have been paranoid to have any doubts about his intentions.
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If he only reverses the stem cell ban, allows gays in the military and stops torture I'll love the guy. I want MUCH more from him, but he has already done a few things that I support (and a couple that I do not), which is more than the last guy, who NEVER signed a law that I liked.
That has nothing to do with the Nobel, but from where I stand he is on our side.
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Plus the torture thing is HUGE. Even though Bush said that we do not torture, everyone knew that was a lie and at every turn his VP came out and said that we do what we want. It was an embarrassment for us in the world. Kinda like preaching about other countries having nukes when we are the only ones to use them and at the same time we were considering using them as bunker busters in Afghanistan/Pakistan.
AND, they use the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty that Iran signed as a reason why they can't have them, when Israel, Pakistan and India can. What they fail to mention is that the treaty was signed by Iran when they were ruled by the Shah, who was an illegitimate ruler and dictator that was in our back pocket. He was not a rightful leader of Iran and any treaties that he entered to were not necessarily in the best interest of his people, but in the best interest of our people.
Not that I think that they should have nukes. I don't think that they should have them and I don't thin that we should either.
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Krauthammer is a blowhard right winger. I heard someone say, the other day, that if Obama single-handedly cured cancer, they would complain that he did not cure Cerebral Palsy. In the minds of these people anything good can be spun bad and anything bad should be pushed hard. If Obama lowered taxes on he wealthy these guys would find a reason to criticize it even though that it their platform.
I'm not against all people that don;t agree with me, but these guys have only one agenda (well three): Critize, embarass and destroy the president at any cost.
There's a "real american patriot" for you.
Bill
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my last post on this topic for a bit. If you want real political talk from a liberal slant, check out Bill Press, Bukowski fan and supporter of the small press.
http://www.billpressshow.com/
Bill
p.s. plus, he is from Delaware!
http://www.billpressshow.com/
Bill
p.s. plus, he is from Delaware!
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Remember that they do not refer to us as liberals anymore. They now call us leftists or socialists. Seems that Liberal, although damaging was not quite damaging enough.
Bill
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Oh, I suppose you can put whatever colorful descriptive term you'd like in there...SATAN controls the media...the Bilderberg Group control the media...Osama bin Laden controls the media...
If you are going to blatantly deny the obvious, you may as well go for the gold. Or the gold painted plaster.
If you are going to blatantly deny the obvious, you may as well go for the gold. Or the gold painted plaster.
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According to the website of The Nobel Prize Committee, the deadline for nominating any and all Peace Prize laureates is February 2. Obama had held office for less than two weeks at that point, which means most of this was based on campaign promises.
But then again, if it's the potential for peace and good intentions, etc., then the shoe fits, I guess.
But then again, if it's the potential for peace and good intentions, etc., then the shoe fits, I guess.
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Yes, that is the case. He was nominated on February 2, but not voted until later. It is still premature, but not as premature as Rush Limbaugh would have you believe. It was not decided that he would be the winner on 2/2/09.
Many, many people (people in and out of Governments) have the ability to nominate people for the Nobel. They can nominate anyone for any reason. I understand that the President of Iran was also nominated (although that is unofficial), so just because someone is nominated does not mean much. They do not announce the nomination that are not winners officially for 50 years.
Bill
Many, many people (people in and out of Governments) have the ability to nominate people for the Nobel. They can nominate anyone for any reason. I understand that the President of Iran was also nominated (although that is unofficial), so just because someone is nominated does not mean much. They do not announce the nomination that are not winners officially for 50 years.
Bill
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That is because you don't get american right-wing hate radio over there. These people "accidentally" called him "Osama" all the time. There was even a polling place in a right wing area in Virginia that "accidentally" put his name as Osama on the ballot....
They (Rush, specifically and his followers) call him Bama. When I was in Elementary school, that was a very racial term that would get your ass kicked if you said it to a black guy. The term was "stupid bama", although it was pronounced like ala-bama, not "bomb-uh"
Bill
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I find that a bit bizarre since one of his campaign promises (which he's already come good on) was cross-border attacks into (or 'invasion of' if you like) Pakistan. So, he says he'll take the 'war on terror' into a new territory, then does it, then gets the Nobel Peace Prize. Not saying the action in Pakistan is justified or it isn't (I think it's probably a waste of time ultimately though) but he promised and delivered an escalation of a military campaign. I think that's what people are scratching their heads about.