Oh my...there goes $239.99 (Beatles mono box)
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mjp
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Speaking of crossing Abbey Road, there is a live camera where you can watch tourists ham it up in that crossing all day. Except it seems to be raining at the moment...
And speaking of The Funhouse Sessions, Rhino finally got my money today when they announced a "20% off all Handmade releases" sale. Patience is the key, you see.
And speaking of The Funhouse Sessions, Rhino finally got my money today when they announced a "20% off all Handmade releases" sale. Patience is the key, you see.
nervas
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Ah, I think I missed the sale! I've been wanting to get the live at unganos stooges cd and the self titled. But just checked and didn't see a 20% ad?
And sweet picture, i thought that lady was photo shopped in there or something. She's looking at them so curiously.
And sweet picture, i thought that lady was photo shopped in there or something. She's looking at them so curiously.
nervas
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Hey mjp, I know your 239.00 went there, but how about your 19.99? Did anyone see these, they're at Target. I couldn't believe it, I didn't even think it was a real 7", figured it was a cd replica. I came home that day and searched eBay, saw them going for 40-50bucks, while the Target I was at had 100 of them overfilling the shelves. Crazy. The shirts are pretty cool, so I guess if anyone wanted a Beatles shirt while they were at Target, why not have a 7" to go along. What's next, stores like Target and Wal-Mart will start carrying vinyl again? Best Buy already does(horrible selection) and so does Fry's electronics(less horrible than best buy selection). Anyway and now I'm off to Buena Park for their last Sunday of the month record swap meet. It's a dirty job but ....i Loveit!
mjp
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No, I don't really feel compelled to pay $20 for a 50th generation/anniversary warped Chinese vinyl single wrapped around a Chinese t-shirt.
I hated vinyl when it was all you could get. It was prone to flaws, prone to damage and inconvenient to use and store. The only reason I bought it was because cassette tapes were even worse. No one could convince me to buy vinyl now that there are alternatives.
I understand that some of you kids think vinyl is the bee's knees. But choosing a music format based on nostalgia isn't logical, and I'm logical like Mr. Spock, ya dig? You've been sold a bill of goods in order to separate you from your money, but whatever blows wind up yer skirt.
I hated vinyl when it was all you could get. It was prone to flaws, prone to damage and inconvenient to use and store. The only reason I bought it was because cassette tapes were even worse. No one could convince me to buy vinyl now that there are alternatives.
I understand that some of you kids think vinyl is the bee's knees. But choosing a music format based on nostalgia isn't logical, and I'm logical like Mr. Spock, ya dig? You've been sold a bill of goods in order to separate you from your money, but whatever blows wind up yer skirt.
nervas
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Haha. I hear ya. I have collected vinyl ever since my mom bought me my first duran duran album back in 84 or so. I don't understand anyone rushing to pay 50 bucks for this target stuff. And I never understand why vinyl seems to come and go so often. I was convinced for a long time cds sounded better than vinyl, still am in certain cases and depending on what cd, album, needle, turntable i'm using, it goes back and forth all the time. But I just found hell bent for leather and Tosh's Equal Rights and George Clintons greatest hits in the same $1.00 vinyl crate so today, vinyl is the knees bees for this kid. I just wish I was 20 years younger.
mjp
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As the only way to find some older music, it's obviously great. Our modern music history is on those discs and I think we're losing most of it. But what can you do?
Even if you collect it all, like that one guy in that movie, no one wants it. Who wants to warehouse that? Which is one of the reasons large vinyl discs are a shitty way to archive music. That guy's entire warehouse of records could fit on a box of hard drives. One person could lift it, copy it, etc., etc., blah blah blah.
Even if you collect it all, like that one guy in that movie, no one wants it. Who wants to warehouse that? Which is one of the reasons large vinyl discs are a shitty way to archive music. That guy's entire warehouse of records could fit on a box of hard drives. One person could lift it, copy it, etc., etc., blah blah blah.
mjp
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But wait, there's more!
If you're bummed out that you bought the Beatles mono and stereo box sets, so now you have everything and there's nothing left to buy, hey ho, it's Apple Corps to the rescue!
Now you can get the same songs arranged in a different order with The Beatles U.S. Albums set!
That's right, for only $199 (or for the budget-minded, $163.61 on Amazon) you can now buy the songs you love and treasure yet again.
As an added bonus, there are excitingly different versions of many of the most beloved tunes. They have been expertly drenched in reverb, edited and brutally compressed for AM radio play in order to provide you with the very worst that the U.S. could haphazardly slap together in the swinging sixties!
You make, you buy, you die!
If you're bummed out that you bought the Beatles mono and stereo box sets, so now you have everything and there's nothing left to buy, hey ho, it's Apple Corps to the rescue!
Now you can get the same songs arranged in a different order with The Beatles U.S. Albums set!
That's right, for only $199 (or for the budget-minded, $163.61 on Amazon) you can now buy the songs you love and treasure yet again.
As an added bonus, there are excitingly different versions of many of the most beloved tunes. They have been expertly drenched in reverb, edited and brutally compressed for AM radio play in order to provide you with the very worst that the U.S. could haphazardly slap together in the swinging sixties!
You make, you buy, you die!
mjp
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Seems odd to celebrate these with a box set when Capitol is so universally criticized for their seemingly random repackaging and casual butchery of the Beatles catalog (and rightfully so). I guess enough people want to hear them the way they remember them, even if that means shitty.
I grew up listening to those Capitol albums in the 60s because it's all we had over here. I certainly don't miss them now when I listen to the proper British mono records. I don't know how anyone could even listen to those weird and senseless Capitol "mixes" after hearing the mono box. Maybe they intend to sell this to people who didn't buy the mono or stereo boxes. Poor bastards.
I grew up listening to those Capitol albums in the 60s because it's all we had over here. I certainly don't miss them now when I listen to the proper British mono records. I don't know how anyone could even listen to those weird and senseless Capitol "mixes" after hearing the mono box. Maybe they intend to sell this to people who didn't buy the mono or stereo boxes. Poor bastards.
Some of the mixes are actually different recordings, and despite the faux stereo and reverb, etc., there's some allure there for me. But I only want Yesterday...and Today, Revolver, and The Beatles Again (Hey Jude). The Beatles' Story is a 2-record set of interviews and A Hard Day's Night is at least half muzak from the film.
mjp
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I read somewhere today that they will be selling the discs separately, outside of the set, so you may be able to get those without re-buying albums you already have.
The "stereo" mixes - I just can't listen to them. It makes me wonder who was behind the controls on those things. Who sat there listening to it and thought the vocals coming out of one speaker and the music out of the other sounded good. That kind of thing was a gimmick in the early days of stereo, before they figured out that complete separation was horribly unnatural.
Though I do remember sitting on my uncle's living room floor and being amazed to hear different sounds coming out of the two speakers. Of course I was only about 6 years old, so I was easily impressed.
Cool about the separates, and get this: I listen to much of my music on headphones these days so the faux stereo is even more pronounced. It's like Ringo and George are in the bathroom, Paul's in the hallway, and John's in the bedroom. Crap, I'd better go check on my wife.
I would add that the skanks at Capitol, who butchered the albums from '64-'66 knew exactly what they were doing, and the butcher cover was not an accident on the part of the Beatles. The Beatles have been quoted, in an effort to deny any purpose, as saying something akin to " the photo-shoot with Robert Whitaker had no intent of becoming the cover of Yesterday...and Today." Whitaker denies it as well. That's certainly all well and good. There's no doubt in my mind that they had no intent of using as an album cover at the time of the photo-shoot. There's also no doubt in my mind that, once they saw the photos and considered their options regarding yet another butchered track list for U.S. release, that they made a conscious decision to use it as the cover for Yesterday...and Today. Their denials are too carefully worded to assume otherwise, and knowing their penchant for slipping in tit tit tits and such, I'll never buy that the butcher cover was anything other than a purposeful commentary that made the overly-sensitive American pricks just so paranoid that they couldn't help themselves but to reinstate censorship for the benefit of their own art-bereft souls.
I would add that the skanks at Capitol, who butchered the albums from '64-'66 knew exactly what they were doing, and the butcher cover was not an accident on the part of the Beatles. The Beatles have been quoted, in an effort to deny any purpose, as saying something akin to " the photo-shoot with Robert Whitaker had no intent of becoming the cover of Yesterday...and Today." Whitaker denies it as well. That's certainly all well and good. There's no doubt in my mind that they had no intent of using as an album cover at the time of the photo-shoot. There's also no doubt in my mind that, once they saw the photos and considered their options regarding yet another butchered track list for U.S. release, that they made a conscious decision to use it as the cover for Yesterday...and Today. Their denials are too carefully worded to assume otherwise, and knowing their penchant for slipping in tit tit tits and such, I'll never buy that the butcher cover was anything other than a purposeful commentary that made the overly-sensitive American pricks just so paranoid that they couldn't help themselves but to reinstate censorship for the benefit of their own art-bereft souls.
Only three days to go to spend money on a set of recordings I own anywhere from 4-10 different versions of. For some ridiculous reason, I'm excited about it.
mjp
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Ha. I guess I would be too, but some of those Capitol "mixes" -- man, I just can't. My ears won't let me. Not after hearing the records in that marvelous god damned mono box.
Edit: It looks like they are putting the mono and stereo mixes on the single discs.
Edit: It looks like they are putting the mono and stereo mixes on the single discs.
In particular, the U.S. versions of Yesterday...and Today and Revolver were among the seminal recordings that started my musical journey. I can't have anything but reverence for them.
Edit: Yes, regarding stereo and mono, The Capitol Albums, Vol. 1 and 2 that I have, from '04/'06, have stereo and mono versions on one disc. It only took Capitol 40 years to stop the gouging process. But that series must have been poorly thought out because Yesterday...and Today and Revolver were never released, along with The Beatles Story and A Hard Days Night, which would have made three four-disc releases instead of the mere two volumes that got produced. Of course, if they'd gotten it correct the first time, there'd be little reason to issue it once again in 2014. Not no reason, just little reason.
Edit: Yes, regarding stereo and mono, The Capitol Albums, Vol. 1 and 2 that I have, from '04/'06, have stereo and mono versions on one disc. It only took Capitol 40 years to stop the gouging process. But that series must have been poorly thought out because Yesterday...and Today and Revolver were never released, along with The Beatles Story and A Hard Days Night, which would have made three four-disc releases instead of the mere two volumes that got produced. Of course, if they'd gotten it correct the first time, there'd be little reason to issue it once again in 2014. Not no reason, just little reason.
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mjp
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I get that. It would be Meet The Beatles for me, but I understand your reasoning there.
mjp
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I just read a comparison article that said these new remasters are much better sounding than those sets you have. But then you'd expect them to $ay that.
Funny that Capitol did mono and stereo for these (and the earlier sets), but EMI kept them separate for the UK album sets. I don't imagine they sold a ton of mono boxes, so they may as well have combined the two the way Capitol has.
If I remember correctly, the UK mono box was supposed to be 10,000 sets, but it sold out and they made "more." How many more, I've no idea. It was a bit of a boot to the groin only because I got in early and had the naive impression of getting something limited. Silly me. Maybe I'll just pick up Rubber Soul in the new format if they are still around.
mjp
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For anyone who ever doubted that The Beatles were geniuses, they figured out how to squeeze yet more blood out of the turnip! And it's only $243.77 more than the CD box! Cue the spontaneous worldwide celebration!
The mono box on CD went from $239.99 at release to $159.19 today. Wonder if the new $402.96 mono box on vinyl
will also eventually sell at a 33% discount? Maybe not, since it's a limited edition.
Oh wait, they said the CD box was a limited edition too...
In all fairness, this is a different beast, since they are skipping the digital transfer, going pure "analog" and pressing vinyl. But without going down the analog vs. digital rabbit hole, it's still nothing more than yet another rehash of the same records. Not even in a different format this time (since you can seek out and buy the original mono LPs if that's what you want).
I suppose 15 years from now (or probably a lot sooner) they'll release the same records again on some really new format that we've never heard of. In a limited edition, naturally.
The mono box on CD went from $239.99 at release to $159.19 today. Wonder if the new $402.96 mono box on vinyl
Oh wait, they said the CD box was a limited edition too...
In all fairness, this is a different beast, since they are skipping the digital transfer, going pure "analog" and pressing vinyl. But without going down the analog vs. digital rabbit hole, it's still nothing more than yet another rehash of the same records. Not even in a different format this time (since you can seek out and buy the original mono LPs if that's what you want).
I suppose 15 years from now (or probably a lot sooner) they'll release the same records again on some really new format that we've never heard of. In a limited edition, naturally.
mjp
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