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[bospress.net]

I think that this is not much of a possibility.

More likely it will end up in the hands of several well known booksellers who specialize in Bukowski.

That is just my take.

 

[mjp]

Someone may be willing to pay $500 for one poem, but will not pay $2000 for 8 poems.

I think you're right about that.

 

[ROC]

The books arent badly priced and I'm considering buying some to make me feel better about other parts of my life that won't get better just by throwing money at them :).

But I hate the PBA take. They want too much just for hosting these things.

 

[Purple Stickpin]

Well, the estimated price ranges are not final (and I see some swings in both directions), but that aside, I tend to agree that 20% (items less than $10,000, I believe) seems like a big chunk. In that regard, one has to consider what some of these cost on abe, and in that, some of the ranges on the lower-cost items might still suffer due to the 20% buyer's premium. But PBA ain't no ebay - they approach things like a proper auction house (marketing, proper photos, descriptions that won't leave you wondering what you're getting, etc.), and in that light, the cut is not out of line with the auction market in the U.S.

Edit: unless I'm missing something - does the seller get full auction price and only the premium goes to PBA? Or does the seller also relenquish a % to PBA?

 

[ROC]

Well shut my mouth and call me Shirley.

 

[Purple Stickpin]

Not so fast Shirley/Sheila :rollfool: - it seems that the buyer's premium is 20%, but items under $10,000 also hit the seller at 15%. So, for a $1000 item, seller gets $850, buyer pays $1,200 and PBA gets $350. At least that's how I read things.

 

[Papillon]

From a fiscally responsible standpoint, I think my best approach to this auction may be getting myself arrested in the morning hours of 6/2 and instructing my girlfriend to NOT bail me out until the auction runs its course.

Some of this stuff looks nice, real nice, even with an additional 20% going to the house. And then other stuff seems really high like the hardbound Sparrow 25-36 for $2500-$3500. That has to be off by a factor of 10.

Thanks for the comments everyone. This will be my first pba experience and I am looking forward to the excitement of the runup.

I wonder if there will be a hardcopy catalogue available after the auction?

 

[Purple Stickpin]

If bail is set at $1,000, you could put that toward a signed book or two and still put your feet up at home that night. And still be able to sit down comfortably, as it were.

 

[Papillon]

I was just reading up on absentee bidding and it looks like I can do all of this way in advance. But what, where, how much? Too many goodies to choose from.

Oh sigh...

 

[ROC]

My advice? Pick one or two primary items you really want and focus on those.
Have one or two other (secondary pieces) lined up in case your primaries get jacked up too high.

Either that or punch a cop.

 

[mjp]

I should have known it was him who outbid me for this one on eBay...

 

[ROC]

Which title is that from?

 

[mjp]

The Dorbin bibliography I believe.

Yes.

 

[ROC]

I wouldn't normally give that title a thought, but that's a nice painting.

 

[Stavrogin]

I ask my girlfriend if I could prostitute her out for a short spell and she said no. Bitch. Pimpin' ain't easy.

 

[cirerita]

They're using the database here for the manuscripts:

Carbon copy of a typed poem, signed and dated by Bukowski in ink, with several corrections in ink. Published in "The People Look Like Flowers At Last" - p.186 (2007), with note on Bukowski.net website that the manuscript differs from the collected version.

 

[hank solo]

Great, so we all get discounts!

 

[willrodgers]

anyone even care to guess what that copy of Genius will go for?

 

[David]

It appears that PBA is not only referring to Buknet, but is a step ahead of us. Take a look at their description of "woman in the supermarket". They point out that the Martinized version on p. 248 of the poem in What Matters Most leaves out the "climax" of the poem--when the narrator takes care of himself after seeing the woman in the supermarket.

Should we make a list of the 10 commandments according to JM for "editing" Bukowski? I mean the list of 10 things which are not allowed to happen in his writings?

 

[d gray]

Should we make a list of the 10 commandments according to JM for "editing" Bukowski? I mean the list
of 10 things which are not allowed to happen in his writings?

#1 - hack-free writing

 

[mjp]

Reading the forum too, it would seem...

Bukowski puts a star in the margin of manuscript to indicate Bukowski's fondness for the piece, according to his Black Sparrow Press publisher John Martin. The seller of this poem Michael Phillips, however, points to "4-notes-buk" on the top of the poem and "next poem" on the bottom (both of which which Bukowski crossed out) to say that this and other poems with the star only signify that they are part of a larger manuscript.

 

[cirerita]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ZODgNS73M

 

[hank solo]

Just toss those books around George. Now the unique scent of the binding is ruined forever. Nice work.

 

[David]

The "Poem to Yevtushenko" (is this uncollected?) on PBA is described as "not dated but circa 1965 when B still used his original antique typewriter until JM gave him a standard manual Royal Typewriter in 1969." This unfortunately cannot be
the correct date of the poem since Buk mentions the Kent State shootings and his poetry reading in New Mexico so it has to be dated after 1970.

 

[mjp]

You know, it doesn't make me cringe at all the way he handles that copy of the first BSP broadside. In fact, if I was bidding on that, I'd want the creases the PBA gallery added while making their important youtube video. I think they're charming.

I like how auctions always describe any face Bukowski drew or painted as a "self-portrait."

"not dated but circa 1965 when B still used his original antique typewriter until JM gave him a standard manual Royal Typewriter in 1969." This unfortunately cannot be the correct date of the poem...

It's not correct about typewriters either, but we can't fix every one of their listings. We're indirectly fixing enough of them already.

 

[jordan]

god, he almost bends the cover of 'genius of the crowd' in half, doesn't he.

 

[bospress.net]

yeah, for a book guy, he sure manhandles rare, extremely fragile books.

 

[Gin Soaked Boy]

He reminds me of the senile guy in Seinfeld, the neighbour to Georges parents, who once knew his cars but in the episode is now so senile (or something) that he bangs on Georges engine until it breaks.

 

[cirerita]

I like how auctions always describe any face Bukowski drew or painted as a "self-portrait."

Yeah, I noticed that, too. What makes they think all those faces are "self-portraits"?

 

[pipelinecosby]

Damn long hairs! This auction is an amazing treasure chest of digitized buk media. I've noticed that not all the images are watermarked, probably just a oversight for now.