sometimes music just does something to you...

Gerard K H Love

Appreciate your friends
Variety is the spice of life, and Father Luke said it best, nice poem. The first time is one thing but when a good song sticks in you mind that's a little piece of heaven.
The first time I heard Creedence Clearwater's Born on the Bayou I was struck. Then the next day it played in my head and the effect was it. Although I got into Savoy Brown after that. I still love that song but it changed my direction for a time.
 
Strangegirl, that is an AWESOME story. Tell more. What did you actually DO for The Tubes?

They were one of my favorites too. Saw 'em live 3 or 4 times between '81 & '94 (I think).
One of the most inventive and rockin' bands ever. I was turned onto them with the Completion Backward album but when I found their first, I never looked back. One of the best albums of the 70's.
 

mjp

Founding member
For me it was the Tubes.
On a side note, Fee Waybill is in the greatest rock and roll movie of all time; Ladies and Gentlemen, The Fabulous Stains.

He plays the singer in a band called the Metal Corpses, who are old and washed up, touring around the Northeast U.S. in a bus with opening punk band, The Looters (Paul Simenon from the Clash, and Steve Jones and Paul Cook from the Sex Pistols, fronted by actor Ray Winstone). On a stop along the tour they pick up the newly formed Stains (made up of the very young Diane Lane and Laura Dern, and another actor) and the rest is B movie history.

It's B movie on the outside, but it really captures something very realistic about small-time, low budget rock band touring (though they traveled like princes and princesses compared to most of the bands I knew and played in - a bus? Motel rooms? We would have taken your family hostage or killed you for those things ;)). It is a classic, and in my top movie list around here somewhere.
 
Ok, here's my attempt at an on-thread comment. . .

Some music literally rips my heart out. Now THAT's being moved. One fine example is the song, "The Beautiful Creatures" by Bruce Cockburn from his album "Life Short Call Now". Go find it, listen to it. And if it don't mess with your guts, you have no heart.
 

mjp

Founding member
I've read up on that movie but it's nowhere to be found. Got a copy to make a copy of?
All I have is a DVD copy, and I can't copy that with my wonderful setup here. I had a VHS copy, but the sound was shit, so I tossed it. I probably should have kept it.

Oddly enough, there is a "making of the Fabulous Stains" short on this DVD (a documentary about a guy who wore a rainbow wig and held up religious signs at sports events way back when). I don't know why it's on there, but it's as close as you can get to the movie commercially.

Looks like you can see it all on YouTube, if you're into 3x5 inch movies. Or jump right to one of the great scenes.
 

mjp

Founding member
excellent, I thought it was just an urban myth.
Ha - seems like it, doesn't it. Bootlegs are even hard to come by. Weird. You'd think someone would have released it by now just because so many of those young actors went on to become well known.

There must be music publishing issues holding it up. When that "making of" short was put together they claimed, "Now it is being released!" - but that was a few years ago, and nothing so far. I'm not holding my breath.

Someone wake up those geeks at The Criterion Collection and get them on it. ;)

Shhhhh - keep this to yourself, but if I can ever wrangle DVD copying here at the ranch (that's a big "if") I will make copies available.* You know, for scholarly purposes. The DVD I have is a bootleg off of cable, but it's the best copy I've come across.




* Please address all copyright infringement letters to my attorneys, Moscow, Jerkin & Prague LLC, Los Angeles.
 

Black Swan

Abord the Yorikke!
My father was born in 1910, he could not sing but loved opera.
This is an opera from Bizet called "les pecheurs de perles". When I heard this song
(je crois entendre..) as a child , it made me cry. This piece changed me.
 
Strangegirl, that is an AWESOME story. Tell more. What did you actually DO for The Tubes?

They were one of my favorites too. Saw 'em live 3 or 4 times between '81 & '94 (I think).
One of the most inventive and rockin' bands ever. I was turned onto them with the Completion Backward album but when I found their first, I never looked back. One of the best albums of the 70's.

I was a women of many trades. I started out helping build their Recording Studio, then i basically learned how to be a recording engineer by working in and pretty much running the studio. Prairie is one of the greatest drummers around, a true talent, I learned how to record drums with him.
I went on a lot of local and regional tours. Up and down the west coast. I did part of one National tour, but that is a whole other story. I was Drum Roadie, Guitar and keyboard roadie, I mixed monitors and front of house. I did many things. i was always loyal, i saw alot of wackiness and tried to stay inline so to speak. I worked for them starting in early 1984. Oh man there is whole book worth of stuff. Probably much to long for this. But there is a bit of it for you.

On a side note, Fee Waybill is in the greatest rock and roll movie of all time; Ladies and Gentlemen, The Fabulous Stains.
i had never seen this before, Fee was also in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, He was one of the Three Most Important People in the World.

here is another clip.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=57i0xsA7C0s&feature=related

with Fee and Vince Welnick, who was the keyboard player.
Sadly Vince is no longer around. I miss him much, he was a great guy to hang with. I had just seen him in 2005 at the Tubes Reunion Show at the Rio in Santa Cruz.
 
Yeah that's how I learned too. I'd put on the music, put my head phones on and start banging on those drums.
When I was working in their studio Prairie would let me play his drums.He always had one of his sets set-up. He always has great sounding drums.

Check this out:
http://www.prairieprince.com/

this is his page, go to ART, then CUSTOM DRUMS.

Okay I'll stop now. And go back to the thread at hand.

.... and so this is one of the many reason why The Tubes moved me so.
Changed my life really.:)
 
I was a big fan of the Tubes in Boston, I believe I saw their first show in my area which was at the Brattle Theatre in Cambridge Mass. around 74, 75? It wasn't a place that usually had music but an actual theatre.

Great show.
 
with music, the first time is a beautiful thing.

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Ayup, The Clash ares still an incredible band today. Their music is maybe even more relevant than it ever was

p.s. Dylan fans..........you realise that Hurricane Carter killed those 3 people, don't you? I wonder how Bob feels about the subject today
 
Bob Dylan, 60's idealist. I along with thousands of others believe he got it 100% wrong when he chose to write a song about poor Hurricane and the injustice he endured

1) Did you watch the movie of a few years ago? If so, here's some truths regarding the blatant untruths in the movie, together with some major liberties that were taken with the song. If you're gonna write about a subject as serious as this at least he could have written lyrics that reflected the facts?

http://www.crimemagazine.com/hurricane.htm

http://www.graphicwitness.com/carter/song.html

Here's a bit of further reading on Ruben Carter

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2186

2) This is not about you or the music. My post was about about how Bob Dylan feels about Hurricane Carter's innocence in retrospect. I've never seen Dylan comment on the case but would love to know what he thinks about it, today
 

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
Anything recorded before an artist died, but subsequently released posthumusly (too late to spell that correctly, methinks) knocks me out.

A personal example is Dave Carter's last album Seven Is The Number. Released 4 years after he died and 6 after his previously last recorded album... It is eerie. Also listening to his older albums and realizing just how in touch with his own mortality he was... he's a remarkable songwriter who writes as well as Dylan, but in a bit of a more... esoteric and spiritual way. Also a bit more country (folksy country, not twang and incest country).

Unplugged in New York (Nirvana), Regretfully Yours (Superdrag), Abbey Road (Do I Need To?), This Is A Long Drive... (Modest Mouse), and Breakfast in America (Supertramp) are also great for zoning me out. And typically depressing the shit out of me... Same thing, right?
 
Ah shit, I forgot all about this thread. Strangegirl, I also just remembered that I completely forgot to tell Prarie, Fee, Roger & Rick that you said hello when I met them at that show we wrote about so long ago now. Actually, after I got out to the van after the show, I reached in my pocket to get something (?) and found the piece of paper I'd written about it on. Shit! I said. What cool cats they were. Prarie Prince is a very unusual person. You surely know this but, it was very, very difficult to differentiate when he was being serious and when he was jokingly bullshitting you. I think most of it was bullshit, except for the part about he and Cotton's company did the HUGE murals in the casino that was on the wall right above us. Or did I get hoodwinked on that one too?
 
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