Sons of Anarchy [Caution: contains spoilers, peanuts and gluten]

[justine]

SPOILERS FROM THE END OF LAST SEASON (where did the spoiler tags go, mjp??)


i buy it - think of all the awful shit gemma has done, that he has known about, and he's always forgiven her. think about the absolute loyalty the club puts above all else - and gemma is a big part of the club. he is way more ready to believe the chinese did it, then his own mother. things had just gotten right between him and tara, and for all it to come crashing down like it did, he's definitely not thinking straight. and he probably doesn't want to even entertain the thought of it being gemma because then he'd have to think about slicing her and salting the wounds and sticking a meat fork in her head.

 

[mjp]

where did the spoiler tags go, mjp?

I'm not saying he would necessarily look toward Gemma. But to not look anywhere...I don't know.

He knows Juice is a traitor, what about him? (Carol thinks Juice is the key to this final season and he's the one who is going to tell Jax what really happened.)

Just saying that it's out of character for him not to be working the angles.

 

[justine]

yeah, given the way she died - clearly there was a struggle, and it seems like if it was really the chinese, they would have just shot her - he should be thinking more clearly about who did it. but he's also in shock and just wanting anyone to pay for it as soon as possible. but i also felt like it was implied at the end of the episode that he didn't feel it was over yet.

 

[mjp]

Yeah, when he was looking a that kitchen...like he noticed something.

Either way, a war with the Chinese is not what I was hoping for in a final season. But there's still a way to go, so who knows what could happen. And how they are going to leave it at the end.

 

[Black Swan]

I thought that Gemma would want to get rid of Juice as soon as possible.

 

[mjp]

She is trying to get rid of him (not permanently, yet), but he came back, didn't he. I think he wants to atone, or at least he doesn't want to be on the run for the rest of his life. But he's in a hard spot now. Again. He's tried to kill himself a few times, maybe he'll succeed now. And leave a note for Jax.

Or maybe he'll kill Jax, fuck his mother and take over the presidency of the club.

Or maybe...

 

[mjp]

It's nut cuttin' time!

Sons is just about to wrap up, but I sure like how each episode gets longer as we get closer to the end. The scene with Jax and Juice in the prison was brutal (and completely without violence) - it reminded me of Jax finding Tara's body last year. That Hunnam kid - who knew he could act?

We've never re-watched any old episodes, so it will be nice to get the discs in a year or so and watch the whole thing again in two days. That could be trauma inducing to someone who isn't prepared. Luckily I'm always prepared for everything.

 

[mjp]

"Jax, what happens at the end of the day?"
"The bad guys lose."

 

[mjp]

It'll all be over soon.

 

[zobraks]

It's only now that I realise these bikers are prominent members of The Forum.

I should watch more (American) TV.
Then again maybe not.

 

[Digney in Burnaby]

It's only now that I realise these bikers are prominent members of The Forum.

And I still seem to be a "prospect". Some just never "make it". Season five (I think) just finished on the "cheap per view" regular cable channel up here in land north of the Washington chapter.

 

[mjp]

You're very close to leaving prospect behind and getting your full patch.

Then you'll see how your life really changes. :die:

 

[Digney in Burnaby]

Ah, he said, adding one more post. :wb:

 

[mjp]

And now the patches are doubly huge and doubly ridiculous!

Mainly because I wanted an excuse to figure out how to do images for the user titles.

 

[zobraks]

I don't know how exactly you Yankees call those posters with a villain's photo, reward in $$$ and "wanted dead or alive" on them, but now I feel as if I'm on one of those.
Blame it on the (huge western) font.

 

[justine]

ok so i'm good with how this finally ended, and it wasn't quite what i expected, but the whole thing with that mysterious homeless woman, who's been around since s1, turning out to be some prophet, is some corny bullshit. and the final cgi with the crows was pretty cheap.

i think this show has gotten a lot of flak over the last couple of seasons for its treatment of race and misogyny and crime/murder, but the ending really shows that criticism up: yes, the audience sympathizes and roots for the club, but in the end it's plainly acknowledged that they're all bad guys, no matter what good things they might do - they're still killers.

 

[mjp]

It ended as well as it could have. I wouldn't want to have to end something that a lot of people like. It's impossible to please everyone. Whatever you do half the audience is going to say it sucked.

Buy yeah, the bread and wine on the wall (last supper anyone?) and the crucifixion pose Jax went out in...and I thought the whole idea that he would prefer to go out that way rather than letting the club take him out - as they should have - didn't ring true and it was out of character. "I just want what's best for the club...so I'll leave you holding the bag while I go off and meet Jesus on my own terms." Sure.

And shit CGI, yes. The final scene of Jax and the truck looked like something from an Aaron Spelling show in the 1980s.

But overall, I can't gripe too much about it. At least they got to end it. Unlike Deadwood, unlike Carnivale, unlike Northern Exposure...

 

[justine]

oh i actually was ok with him going out that way - he specifically says to chibs something like "i'd never put that on you". and there was always the thing that JT's death wasn't an accident or even murder, but rather suicide.

also: HAHA i couldn't fucking figure out that food thing! i totally missed that it was wine in that bottle (it looked like an ice tea bottle to me), and i kept wondering what the significance of the cake-looking thing with the pink stuff on it was.

 

[mjp]

Well at least I was right about this:

Now Jax is free to be a real beast for the final season. And behold, the blood will flow like a river down the streets of Charming. Selah.

 

[roni]

[...] I wouldn't want to have to end something that a lot of people like. It's impossible to please everyone. Whatever you do half the audience is going to say it sucked. [...]

With STAR WARS it was quite the opposite: going on after 'Return of the Jedi' sucked. It should have ended there.

 

[mjp]

There's nothing worse than a tv show, band or movie franchise going on after it should have ended.

It takes the kind of guts and integrity most people don't have anymore to "go out on top" when there's still a dollar left on the table.

 

[mjp]

And I still seem to be a "prospect".

No one with 900+ posts should be a prospect, so I added a group.

The tags probably won't be around forever, but I like them at the moment. When everyone is sick of them we'll move on. Make some Disney tags or something. "How many more posts do I have to make to get rid of this Mickey Mouse tag?!"

 

[Digney in Burnaby]

It's the tattoos that worry me. Especially when they are forcibly removed. That's pain.

 

[roni]

[...] "How many more posts do I have to make to get rid of this Mickey Mouse tag?!"

In case of Disney-labels, I guess, Mickey Mouse would rank the highest, no matter how many fingers he's lacking.

 

[mjp]

You can buy me a prop from the show in an auction right now. Christmas is coming, you know.

I really want to read John Teller's book.

You know, if it existed.

Well...

 

[roni]

Disney tags

The "First 9"-batch would be replaced by the "Snow White and the 7 dwarfs"-batch, right?

(being the first full-length flick by Disney and Almost matching the right number.)

 

[mjp]

The "First 9"-batch would be replaced by the "Snow White and the 7 dwarfs"-batch, right?

Wait, would that make me Snow White? Cool.

 

[roni]

judging from the colour of your hair, I'd say yes.

...and of course, because you definitely ARE the most beautiful fairytale-figure in town.

 

[mjp]

That's an optical illusion! My hair is brown! You know, half of it.

 

[mjp]

Well the "final ride" Knucklehead sold for a mere $49,750 (plus 24% auction house rape fee for a total of $61,690).

The rest of the interesting stuff was equally crazy...

Jax's fake California drivers license: $3,100
Jax's SAMCRO belt buckle: $5,300
Jax's "chapel chair" from the meeting table: $12,000
The SAMCRO President's Gavel: $12,250
The two rings that Jax wore that spelled SONS: $17,250
Seven Redwood Original cuts (the leather vests with the big Sons of Anarchy California rocker and reaper patches on the back and various patches on the front) sold for: $9,200, $8,900, $8,100, $8,000, $7,500, $6,100, $3,700

Little wall plaques that you couldn't even see on screen went for a couple thousand dollars a pop. Work shirts from Teller Morrow for $750 to $1,000...I've never seen props and wardrobe that weren't associated with some famous iconic movie or movie star sell for so much.