The Charles Bukowski Museum?

Museum? Why? His works live on and that is a museum enough. Also what would you put in the museum, old shirts? Empty beer bottles? Old used cigs? Pictures of the chicks he did? Or signs that point to bed he did them on. Maybe some of his paintings if you can find them. If you want to get close to buk go to his grave and just sit and think. Very relaxing! If you want to honor buk get others to read his works and get those people to pass it on, and on and on. This is how to best remember buk.What if you gave a museum and nobody came? Better yet, how about a bumper sticker - "I would rather be reading Buk". Maybe this website is the best tribute. And this is just my opinion and I do not mean to offend anybody.

I would tend to agree; and the neighborhood the house is in would most likely need to be zoned for it... And no offense to anyone, especially SD!, but I'm not sure Bukowski would have been entirely thrilled with the idea. He had trouble enough getting rid of the pests, the drunken guys with six-packs, who used to show up unexpectedly on his doorstep and he had to put his foot in the doorjamb. I'm not convinced that every one of Buk's readers is entirely sane, judging from my own experience, lol, when they exaggerate the flagrant excesses of their own behavior but without Bukowski's talent, and I would not wish a replay for Ms. Bukowski, her desire to protect or promote her husband's legacy aside.

Plus"”and this is just a surmise as an outsider"”this museum project, beneath the surface, may be a way for Linda to remain close to Hank's memory in a way that I'm not exactly sure would be healthy for anyone, except someone living in a mansion. I believe she has left Bukowski's writing room intact since he died. To turn the entire house into a museum of his material artifacts (reading glasses, pens, etc.), except perhaps examples of his original manuscripts under glass, and open it to the general public"”strikes me"”forgive me"”as somewhat excessive, perhaps morbid, even trivial, and possibly unhealthy in the long-run for her emotional well-being unless she"”and please don't anyone take offense at this"”unless she decides to become a professional widow like maybe the wife of composer Robert Schumann, who outlived her famous husband by 40 years and wore black.

The way I see it is that Bukowski's output and reputation as an author is just about bullet proof. He showed the absolute worst of himself in print and probably died a millionaire from sales, or close to it. As long as his books are in print, I doubt whether his legacy will die, particularly so because the definitive Bukowski movie, either about Bukowski or one of his stories, has yet to be made; but when the next one comes along, more new readers will take an interest in the honesty of his works and get involved with the read... What remains to be done is a thorough evaluation, an appreciative evaluation of his best works. While I enjoyed reading the "Fuck Machine," I view that as a story Bukowski may have written to pay the bloody rent, and it's a far cry from "The Most Beautiful Women in Town," which I find to be one of his most hauntingly beautiful and memorable stories... So there's a wide range of subject matter, and perhaps in the quality of some of his works; and if Linda wants to help move his legacy along, she could continue working with researchers or scholars in this sorting out process... In the meantime, she'll probably never have to work another day in her life, thanks to her husband's generosity, loyalty and genius, and she probably still has some of her own living to do. I hope so... It's too bad too that she seems to have no active interest or presence on this forum. What readers have ever looked after an author's legacy as much as the members do here, whether it's bootlegs, ripped off videos and dvds, fake signatures, you name it?"”and it's not all about the money; it's about giving something back in gratitude to the man for, at lease to me, all that I gained through his artistic genius. He hasn't been dead but for 15 years, and the public's interest in Bukowski as a man and writer seems to be greater than ever, and growing. If Mrs. Bukowski has information that her husband's sales have dropped off dramatically, or that his legacy is being threatened, I hope she will somehow share this information directly or indirectly through one of her contacts on this forum. I would be surprised indeed if that were the case. From what I can tell, Charles Bukowski is selling, and what better way to preserve his legacy than through his countless and exceptional poems, stories, novels and letters? "”Poptop.
 
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Bukfan

"The law is wrong; I am right"
Great post, poptop! - I have a small comment. If memory serves, I think the Buk museum was to be established after Linda B's death. She said something along those lines in an interview. There's a link to the interview somewhere in the forum, I believe...
 
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i think a large number of fans would love to visit the place (myself not included) and who cares whether or not bukowski would approve he's dead, for chrisake regardless, it's arrogant of anyone to think they could know how he would feel about it i think it's more appropriate to consider the neighbor's feelings
 
Do YOU think it's a good idea? Why do you give a fuck what Bukowski would think? He wouldn't give a fuck what you think.
 
I can (like everybody) talk for myself only, and this is: I've been to many museums and exhibitions on interesting people (painters, writers, musicians, philosophers) and am always very very happy when this is properly done and am always disappointed when not. But, yeah, I like to see good work done to honor someone I love.

Obviously the house in San Pedro suggests itself for being such a place. (And of course NOT while Linda is still living there!) And obviously there Would occur a problem for the close neighborhood, which is a strong point. (see Jim Morrisons grave in Paris)
(btw: I'm surprised, that the address in San Pedro seems to be fairly unknown in the US.)

There's a lot to balance before deciding this.

I understood the donation to Hunting as an effort of Linda to keep the heritage alive with-out having to make a museum on her own. But maybe I'm wrong and she still plans to do it. I'd appreciate that.

One little anecdote: seven or eight years ago, two members of the Buk-society (Falko Hennig and Ben Lauterbach) were at Lindas place, sitting around, talking (and, yes, drinking also included) and it was a real peak to them, when during this evening, they were allowed to go upstairs and have a look into THE room.
- and I can totally understand these feelings. It would be a goodam thrill to me too. I'd shiver. And don't be smartasses now, telling me, it's only a room! I know this myself.

 
You know I may be wrong and have been a number of times here and elsewhere but if we are discussing museums and particularly a Buk museum the only museum that makes sense would be one of a mobile variety. A mobile museum where buk stuff can go from city to city or campus to campus.
For years people have said poetry is static and dull and a one location museum falls into that same trap.
The reason this serve is interesting and vibrant is that its interactive. I see no reason why a few thoughts outside the box couldn't make the idea of a mobile museum a better vehicle to educate the public.

Now I have no idea if the curator would be the driver too-but that would be one hell of a job!
 
Born into this; Is it available on anything but region 1? I can't find a copy to play in the UK anywhere. As for the museum...I like the idea of a collection of his works, a reading room and a fridge full of beer. Anymore would have buk turning in his grave. It was/is all about the moment, getting that moment down on paper, a life choice. Keep the Mecca in his work not in some surburban dwelling. But what the fuck do I know?
 
just in short b/c this needs a new thread:

as far as I know, there's an Australian and a French version on DVD already. Swiss TV broadcasted a shorter version of it (about 1h).
Also, when I had a short email-contact to Dullaghan 2 years ago, he intended to make a German version. Ain't sure if he's still on it.
 

chronic

old and in the way
A mobile museum where buk stuff can go from city to city or campus to campus.

Or a mobile museum that goes from bar to bar and to whatever racetrack is open. It should rarely leave the L.A. basin. It could be in two vehicles... a beat up old VW bug with a cracked windshield for the early stuff and a 89 BMW for the later period.

:)
 
The thing is that even though he didn't want to spend time messing around with people instead of getting it down, he did. He spent the time and he wrote poems about that time and those folk. He couldn't avoid it because even though he didn't want it he didn't not want it badly enough to leave it forever. It's not like he became a hermit. He hung out actually. And he even hung out with his chinas when he wasn't with them, check all the letters. He loved all those people that he hated. Maybe you could have a museum that has a 'keep out' sign on the door. Or something more rude. It should be an experience. I love this forum.
 
Or a mobile museum that goes from bar to bar and to whatever racetrack is open.

There we go!

Re-read the 'notes' from page 65 on, where he states:

"then, I'd change the museums. there is nothing as depressing or quite or stinky as a museum. [...] first off, I'd install a rock-band, a swing-band and a symphony band for each floor, [...] can't you see a guy and his wife, each a beer in hand, looking at the sabre-tooth ..." - I LOVE it!
 
Hey Chronic! Why don't we scrap the "two car" idea and have a Buk Museum in a bar with his old cars as booths. Are there any bars in the U.S. with Buk as its theme? If not, why not? Like you clingfoil, I love this space!
 
Museum? Why? His works live on and that is a museum enough. Also what would you put in the museum, old shirts? Empty beer bottles? Old used cigs? Pictures of the chicks he did? Or signs that point to bed he did them on. Maybe some of his paintings if you can find them. If you want to get close to buk go to his grave and just sit and think. Very relaxing! If you want to honor buk get others to read his works and get those people to pass it on, and on and on. This is how to best remember buk.What if you gave a museum and nobody came? Better yet, how about a bumper sticker - "I would rather be reading Buk". Maybe this website is the best tribute. And this is just my opinion and I do not mean to offend anybody.

Couldn't agree more. The man's legacy is in his work and not found on some money grubbing tour through a dull home in San Pedro. Sorry, I'm just not interested in seeing the toilet where Buk took one of his famous beer shits.
 

Gerard K H Love

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I had a chance to steal all or part of the toilet located in the DeLongpre apt. but it had a chance of not being the actual toilet. I had buyers for it.

If you are going to be a fan go all the way not just half way like my weak ass.
 
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