The David Bowie Thread

mjp

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Funny this thread should pop up now, I was just looking at some pictures of Bowie and Cher about five minutes ago...

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d gray

tried to do his best but could not
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i hear ya. i just love hearing songs played live before everyone knows they're proven classics...
 

mjp

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Yeah, it's tough to sing and do interviews when all of the pollen in the air and your hay fever is making your nose run and making you all twitchy and jittery. Poor bastard.
 

mjp

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That's what David Bowie looked like before he came to America and saw the New York Dolls. After he saw them, he started looking like David Bowie.
 

d gray

tried to do his best but could not
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i just never knew this clip existed - the bowie exhibit i saw last week had a section about this contest he won - the award and other stuff from bowie's archive regarding it.

i didn't realize the radio version we all know was a re-do. i almost like the original better.
 

mjp

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Yeah, his style and his music. When he came to America for the first time he was a folkie in bellbottoms and a floppy denim hat. He saw what was happening in New York, that the sands were shifting, and he changed up his game. It was a smart move for him, and if you look at his career he was usually taking on influences from someone or somewhere. A good example of that is the Bowie "Berlin" albums, which sound the way they do because he collaborating with Iggy Pop at the time.

In that way Bowie isn't unlike guys like David Byrne and Paul Simon who continually latched on to new things to keep themselves relevant. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, just that when you scratch the surface of some artists who are considered "fresh and original," you'll find more often than not that they are staying fresh and original by keeping their ears to the ground for whatever new things seems to be happening. That's smart, but I would argue that it's not necessarily groundbreaking, or even very creative.

And of course the New York scene influenced not only hippies like Bowie, but later of course the entire British punk movement, which was based lock stock and barrel on New York bands and style (via Malcolm McLaren). I know a lot of British punk aficionados don't like to admit that, but ask Chris Spedding - who produced the first Sex Pistols demos - what they said to him when they met for the first time; "Make us sound like the Ramones."

All of this has nothing to do with d gray discovering an early version of a Bowie song. But I typed it so I might as well post it.
 

mjp

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I meant the songs, not the production. I should have been more specific.

But since Eno isn't American, who really gives a shit?
 
But since Eno isn't American, who really gives a shit?
can't complain here.

[...] the songs, not the production [...]
but will complain here:
These three albums don't have the slightest sound of Iggy. (Well maybe in the sense that he was buying some of the drugs back then.)

The whole sound of these albums - including the songs, not only the production - has the unmistakable imprint of Brian Eno.

Don't argue with me on that! I'd emerge myself as a terrible loser. Lawsuit-threatening and all.
 

hoochmonkey9

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speaking of Bowie & Iggy and the passing of Lou Reed, has anyone read this? thoughts? I'm thinking about getting it.

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Just found out:
Both, Iggy and David have covered songs of the French Chansonier Jaques Brel. <= see Links!!

Which reminds me of a friend of mine, who was acting and singing the role of Jaques Brel in a stage-play a few years ago. In the trailer to that show you can find Both of the songs, that Mr. Pop and Mr. Bowie have covered.
(and yes, the 'roni'-person that has put this trailer online [after filming und editing it] was me.)
 
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mjp

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speaking of Bowie & Iggy and the passing of Lou Reed, has anyone read this?
Eww, paper?

Have not read that, but it looks interesting. Seems like that guy has written a lot of "unauthorized" biographies though, and that doesn't always bode well.
 
Just found out:
Both, Iggy and David have covered songs of the French Chansonier Jaques Brel. <= see Links!!

Which reminds me of a friend of mine, who was acting and singing the role of Jaques Brel in a stage-play a few years ago. In the trailer to that show you can find Both of the songs, that Mr. Pop and Mr. Bowie have covered.
(and yes, the 'roni'-person that has put this trailer online [after filming und editing it] was me.)
Scott Walker also covered Brel. I only know this because this cover was subsequently sampled by Orbital for The Naked and the Dead, which I happen to love ;)
 

Skygazer

And in the end...
After watching the Sweet video Short Bus posted in What are you... I thought it doesn't get much worse than that, then I remembered Bowie's The Laughing Gnome, here is a woodwind variation, there is a reference to Sooty in it, this was a kid's tv show (glove puppets) in the UK from the 50's to the 90's. When Sooty brought out his magic wand you had to shout at the tv Izzy Wizzy let's get Busy - sounds a bit pervy now really.


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I watched about 2 minutes of the Brits last night (James Corden interviewing Pharell Williams and Nile Rogers). It was so cringeworthy I turned over.
 

hoochmonkey9

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Brand new Bowie.

A weird jazz freak out that would not seem out of place on Ornette Coleman's Crisis, Skies of America or Science Fiction and I absolutely love it. But probably not everyone will.

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