The Pleasures of the Damned

cirerita

Founding member
ok, I just talked to Mr. Debritto -the compiler- and here's his response (English is not his mother tongue, so his command of the language is somewhat limited):

The Bukowski materials in Huntington are not finished; more boxes arriving soon. I have go through actual [I think he means "current"] inventory, all what is been inventoried up to now. Future updates will be included as soon I get them from my contact there.
 

zoom man

Founding member
Broadside

who all got advanced copies?

I got one too..
A little late to reply, I know, but
I tend to step in the room after the proverbial elephant has been fully Acknowledged,
Discussed
and optioned for different re-hab directions.
:confused:

Whoa, I just mean
I got this uncorrected proof
after
the book came out.

Anyway, on the back of my copy
it states->
Limited Edition Broadside Available.

Anyone know anything about it?
 

bospress.net

www.bospress.net
I have one and it is a beauty. It is very large and limited to only 250 copies. Most went to Ecco insiders, I suspect. I'll try to take a picture and post it...

BIll
 

bospress.net

www.bospress.net
not letterpressed, but it measures about 7" wide by 19" tall!

democracy.jpg

Bill
 
M

MULLINAX

I want it! NOW! Not one house, but 10,000 houses, NOW!

And I'll hang it up next to my "modest" signed BROADSIDES, and every so often I'll wipe off the accumulated cigar smoke residue from the frame pane (frame pane?) with a damp cloth.
 

chronic

old and in the way
I want one too. Funny they would choose a poem that had previously been issued as a broadside by a different publisher.
 
M

MULLINAX

Joy In The Mullinax Manse

2 hardcover copies of PLEASURES OF THE DAMNED and 2 hardcover copies of LIVING ON LUCK have just arrived, straight from the arms of a postman!

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

I'll have to make up a new list!
 

chronic

old and in the way
Just curious... why two copies of each?

And I'll hang it up next to my "modest" signed BROADSIDES, and every so often I'll wipe off the accumulated cigar smoke residue from the frame pane (frame pane?) with a damp cloth.

Are the signed broadsides also numbered? If they are, use uv coated glass... that red ink they use for numbering will disappear over time.
 

Father Luke

Founding member
Limited Edition Broadside Available.

Now I gott'a wait 20 years before they show up on eBay at a cost just out of
my price range. But, man, are they nice to see.

Thanks for posting a shot of yours, Bill. That's as close as I'll ever come.
 

ROC

It is what it is
It's strange that this piece and the Happy 86th Birthday piece cannot be found on ABE.
Normally a few booksellers will turn them around pretty quickly.

These ecco oddities are like the genius of the crowd... well sort of.
 
M

MULLINAX

Just curious... why two copies of each?

One copy to venerate and another to fold, spindle and multilate.

I actually prefer to have things in threes, so this is a bit of a comedown for me.

Alternative reason:

Do you remember Buk's comment on his father's Theory of Property Accumulation?

Buk Senior thought that a man should buy a house and pass it on to his son, who would then buy another house, thus having two houses, and then pass those two houses on to his son, and so on. Slow and steady. He would mix this housing philosophy up with an adherance to the family, church, a little patriotism and a steady job and presto, you've got all the ingredients for conventional morality. Buk would have none of that shit. "I want a thousand houses, now!", he wrote. Or something like that.

And that's why I have two copies of each.

chronic said:
Are the signed broadsides also numbered? If they are, use uv coated glass... that red ink they use for numbering will disappear over time.
Yes. The HAM ON RYE BROADSIDE is 63/100 and TALKING TO MY MAILBOX is 68/100. I believe the "frame panes" are some type of plastic.

What to do?
 

mjp

Founding member
Do you remember Buk's comment on his father's Theory of Property Accumulation?
That's a workable theory if you buy the right things, but I can't imagine that something like Pleasures of the Damned will ever sell for more than the sticker price. But what do I know. In 20 years maybe they'll be rarer than Write magazine.
 
M

MULLINAX

I Want A Thousand Houses, Now!

You're absolutely correct, but I have no intention of selling my Buk stuff, except for some excess HARDCOVERS and BROADSIDES and CRUCIFIX, because I dislike the cover colour and the Rockmore illustrations. Ughh!

I'll also be getting rid of ORO MADRE and some other magazines because they are poor examples of the printers art. Some are no better than mimeographed sheets of paper stapled together. Wait a minute, that's why it was called a mimeograph revolution....

Speaking of WRITE magazine I have 2 goals:

1) Smoke a cigar and drink whiskey outside of Delongpre and N. Mariposa

2) Spend a summer looking for WRITE magazine.
 

cirerita

Founding member
That's a workable theory if you buy the right things, but I can't imagine that something like Pleasures of the Damned will ever sell for more than the sticker price. But what do I know. In 20 years maybe they'll be rarer than Write magazine.

Mr. Debritto tells me that Write might not be that rare in the near future...
 

bospress.net

www.bospress.net
You can't drop a vague comment like that on us!

Does he have a copy? We all want to know the details.

Still, one or two copies of one of the first Bukowski appearances is still wicked rare in my book. I'll never own one..

Bill
 

cirerita

Founding member
Bill,

you just don't know Mr. Debritto. He can be very elusive and vague. I'll ask him about this again, but don't hold your breath.
 

cirerita

Founding member
Mr. Debritto is a most serious fellow -much like Steve Richmond. Alas, he tells me, he has no copies of the Write issue with Bukowski stuff. He can confirm you, though, that Bukowski was NOT in v.1 no.1, 1940. He's a very busy person, but he will probably be able to double-check the other Write issues sometime soon.
 

ROC

It is what it is
And more...

He is something strange and offers something different and perhaps even entertaining, but if you want a truly challenging read, might I recommend Wallace Stevens. Monsters & Critics.com

One of the benefits of a career retrospective is that it allows us to see how a writer has progressed, how themes and styles are continued or discarded. This collection, though, shows no real growth. A poem from the 1950s reads no different than one from the 1980s; they are part of the same lifelong binge. "I've got this room upstairs overlooking the harbor," Bukowski noted in 1979, describing his method of composition, "and I drink 2 or 3 bottles of wine and tap it out." But reading "The Pleasures of the Damned," you begin to wish there had been a little less "tapping" and a little more development. David L. Ulin - LA Times
 

hank solo

Just practicin' steps and keepin' outta the fights
Moderator
Founding member
"...perhaps even entertaining..." Monsters & Critics.com

"[...] A poem from the 1950s reads no different than one from the 1980s[...]" David L. Ulin - LA Times

I suppose that the critics will always be critics. That second comment seems very short sighted to me. The subject matter is sometimes the same, but seeing no development, for better or worse, is just blind arrogance.
 

hoochmonkey9

Art should be its own hammer.
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Founding member
exactly.
I hope he doesn't assume they are presented chronologically.
I personally think it's a very strong collection.
 
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