I haven't read Last Exit or Requiem, but I have seen the movies and I'm a bit on the fence about them. While I appreciate that they don't have the typical warm and fuzzy Hollywood ending, I can't help but feel cheated with all the gloom and doom--which in my opinion is just as one dimensional. To me, art should be like a good funeral--mixed emotions--happy and sad at the same time.
The Wrestler - Mickey Rourke movie
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I sold a few of those Daihatsu back in the day and I was sporting a very similar hairstyle.
That thing in his hand looked like a glass pipe.
That thing in his hand looked like a glass pipe.
Gerard K H Love
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Bukowski would have been there during the war- at that age.
Gerard K H Love
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Even though Mickey Rourke did not Receive the Oscar he did get a big acknowledgment from Sean Penn during his lengthy political acceptance speech. I hope he makes some more movies now.
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I think it's been funny, all this talk of a Rourke "comeback." Come back? When was he ever relevant or important? Has he ever been in a really good movie? I can't think of one. Maybe this Wrestler movie is good, a lot of people seem to think so. If it is, it's his first. Or second, if you are a Barfly fan. I am almost a fan of Barfly, but think the main thing dragging it down is Rourke's hammy bullshit.
He's a marginal character at best, and a self-important douchebag on top of that. One of those examples of ego in inverse proportion to talent. Sean Penn is a self-important douchebag too (come to think of it, most of them are), but at least he can act. Rourke is just a mumbleclown. The only thing interesting about him is his plastic surgery addiction. Even his little dogs suck. Get a real dog, bitch!
Ha ha ha.
He's a marginal character at best, and a self-important douchebag on top of that. One of those examples of ego in inverse proportion to talent. Sean Penn is a self-important douchebag too (come to think of it, most of them are), but at least he can act. Rourke is just a mumbleclown. The only thing interesting about him is his plastic surgery addiction. Even his little dogs suck. Get a real dog, bitch!
Ha ha ha.
hmmm...carnivore, a little rough on ole mickey i think. let me list a few for you....BODY HEAT (stole the scenes from william hurt), RUMBLE FISH, DINER, POPE OF GREENWICH VILLAGE, ANGEL HEART, more recently...SIN CITY, THE PLEDGE, another rodriguez film where he starred with his pooch, ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO, PRAYER FOR THE DYING...many others including 91/2 WEEKS. those are only the ones i remember. come on..the guy's got game. best actor was a tough category and he had every right to be there.
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mjp is right about Rourke mumbling through Barfly like Popeye, but he isn't that bad. Time will tell.
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Right. Well I don't consider any of those to be really good movies, so now what? Come on, Angel Heart? Rumblefish? 9 1/2 weeks?! Jesus christ.
Like I said, maybe his wrestler movie is astounding, I haven't seen it. When I do, if I like it, I'll admit he's been good one movie. ;) But if he starts mumbling or whispering - and I've never really seen him do anything else - I doubt I'll be able to finish it.
It's just a personal distaste for him as a public figure. I don't like that I am aware of him. That I have to know he exists. It bothers me. He's a clown, and not even a cool clown, like The Joker (who he's apparently trying to mold his face to resemble).
But what do I know.
Johnny Handsome and Homeboy were good movies. but he definitely mumbles and whispers. The Wrestler is very good.
and I'm pretty sure most actors, like politicians, are self indulgent twats to some degree. but you have to be, I suppose. otherwise you wouldn't get up on stage for everyone to stare at you.
and I'm pretty sure most actors, like politicians, are self indulgent twats to some degree. but you have to be, I suppose. otherwise you wouldn't get up on stage for everyone to stare at you.
The Academy/Oscars weren't going to give it to MR anyway. I haven't seen the movie, but want to. While I'm not a huge MR fan, I think he did a bang-up job in Barfly. A damn fine job.
And I haven't seen this year's big winner either. I do, however, find the Oscars fascinating.
Makes me think of Scorsese with Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas (then finally winning with The Departed) "” and a list of other notables that didn't win best flick (director, or other nominations that seem a bit more obvious today) "” The Color Purple which lost to Out of Africa; and didn't (TCP) win any statues...comes to mind.
Voting must be fun, for those who do it... And Mickey certainly wasn't on anyone's A-List, for sure. Save for a few chihuahua's. If he lives long enough, he'll get the Jerry Lewis award...
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And I haven't seen this year's big winner either. I do, however, find the Oscars fascinating.
Makes me think of Scorsese with Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas (then finally winning with The Departed) "” and a list of other notables that didn't win best flick (director, or other nominations that seem a bit more obvious today) "” The Color Purple which lost to Out of Africa; and didn't (TCP) win any statues...comes to mind.
Voting must be fun, for those who do it... And Mickey certainly wasn't on anyone's A-List, for sure. Save for a few chihuahua's. If he lives long enough, he'll get the Jerry Lewis award...
Pax
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my ignorance has paraded around here often. don't confuse a few facts with knowledge. ;)
homeless....i was actually responding to a very angry carnivore. sorry if it sounded as if it was directed at you. mr carnivore is sounding pretty hostile today. perhaps he should go and see 'slumdog millionaire.' to cheer himself up. or maybe he just likes being angry.
Never wear A-1 sauce as cologne or perfume around here. Unless you really want to see what's going on...
(Would Bukowski have called cologne: scented toilet water? :eek: ;))
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(Would Bukowski have called cologne: scented toilet water? :eek: ;))
Pax
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Now I'm going to cry. I hope you're happy.
Gerard K H Love
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This is so sweet. buk babe had to do a bit of reading to draw out all of that Thumbsucker and Silverman info. Now you've exposed the soft under belly of the great carnivore. Good job on that.
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mjp
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I didn't know we were in a war. I wasn't.
I voiced my opinion and it didn't agree with yours, which apparently made you think I was "angry." I don't know if everyone who disagrees with you is classified as angry. I, however, am not.
I am opinionated, and unfashionably passionate about some things. Mistaking that for anger might suggest some kind of low level Asperger syndrome or something. You might want to get that checked out.
Peace.
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No prize on this one. Just finished watching it, and good lord, anyone who calls this a Rourke "comeback" - or even acting - should have their eyes and earholes (and maybe brain function) checked.
Watching Rourke in this movie is like watching a potato with a really bad weave and creepy Howard Hughes fingernail claw things. It should have been marketed as a horror movie. I'm not kidding - what are those monstrosities at the ends of his fingers?! I'm going to have nightmares about those.
The story is predictable, and again, Rourke can't act because he can't move his fucking face.
Ouch. Ouch ouch ouch and yawn. I nominate it for the Palme d'Bore.
