Was Bukowski bisexual?

[jmoshea]

one can only lol so much...right?

Buk was not bisexual. (period)

At least no more than your average male.

 

[Nephilim Muse]

I think the buk was just an ubersexual. I mean, For christ sakes, he wrote about cutting his cock while trying to fuck a vase. he lost his virginity to a 300 lb whore... it wouldn't surpise me if he volentarily put it in a few guys...

 

[Black Swan]

Ubersexual?????

I had to look it up, but no comments.

We have enough trouble as it is with bi...

 

[Mark73]

Boring.
I am bi and what's the point?
Was Bukowski bi?
Not to offend anybody, but I think the interest in and controversy about
someone's sexual orientation is a result of christianity.Sex is bad and you
better had no vagina or penis at all,dirty,you know what I mean?
Cultures from the past had a much more natural sex life and no brainwashing
effects.
There was always heterosexuality, homosexuality,bisexuality since the beginning
of man and will be there until mankind dies.
Like we have to breathe air,eat food and drink.

 

[bospress.net]

If it is boring maybe check out the other posts... There is a great one about if Bukowski was left handed....

Bill

 

[Short Bus]

but I think the interest in and controversy about
someone's sexual orientation is a result of christianity.

There are women in the Sudan without clits and a few fags (living and dead) in Iran who may disagree.

 

[Bukfan]

According to a Danish scholar, Von Rosen (himself homosexual), homosexuality was virtually unknown before big cities were created in the 19th century. With the big cities came the homosexual sub-culture (think Oscar Wilde f.ex.). Von Rosen studied the subject and wrote a book about it. He found that homosexuality was first mentioned in the newspapers in the 1860s - 1870s, and he said that if homosexuality existed before that, it would have been possible to find evidence of it in old writings, songs etc., but thats not the case. Before the 19th century, the only homosexuality people knew about was from ancient Greece etc. thousands of years ago.

 

[mjp]

When did he write that, in the 1950's? It sounds like something from a scratchy black and white government propaganda film. I think Mr. Von Rosen is more than a little crazy.

 

[Bukfan]

Maybe he's crazy. I don't know. I heard him being interviewed in a radio program in the eighties. He had written a dissertation about it. He said homosexuality was not a common thing before the big cities came about in the 19th century, and that it wasn't mentioned in the newspapers before that time. That's what he said and he's gay himself. I don't know if he's right or wrong...

 

[bospress.net]

There is even homosexuality in the animal world (I know that humans are animals, but I mean OTHER animals). I somehow doubt that they were converted to homosexuality by Elton John and Ellen DeGerenes. It is far more rare in wild animals, but does happen and humans are sexual beings where other many other animals are in it for the passing on of their genes.

Bill

 

[mjp]

Being homosexual doesn't give Von Rosen any special insight into history, and his work being a dissertation doesn't make it valid or true. To claim that cities somehow created homosexuality is idiotic, whoever says it.

That sounds like something Sarah Palin or some other right wing Jesus nut would say. That's proof that it's idiotic right there. ;)

Remember, there are gay nuts too.




So to speak.

 

[homeless mind]

We're gonna need to start an Oak Tree translation thread here. If not, start interviewing squirrels. (That would make about as much sense.) I'll have to check my notes, but didn't Sarah recommend that? After all, she can see squirrels from her back yard...

 

[Bukfan]

Being homosexual doesn't give Von Rosen any special insight into history, and his work being a dissertation doesn't make it valid or true.

I agree. It sounds weird. I've checked the net. Lots of people seems to disagree with him. He uses something called the "constructionistic hypothesis", claiming that homosexuality is a modern phenomenon related to big cities. Here's a link about the whole thing. It's in Danish, but maybe you use a translation machine:

http://www.tidsskrift.dk/visning.jsp?markup=&print=no&id=80009

 

[Pessimist]

That sounds like something Sarah Palin or some other right wing Jesus nut would say.

James I (i.e., the patron of the King James Bible) was likely homo or bi-sexual.
One of the great ironies.

 

[Gerard K H Love]

Jail can bring it out. That's like a big city. The Spartans? Sodom and Gomorrah was a very long time ago.

 

[Mark73]

I have to correct myself:NOT boring.
Maybe I was pissed off a bit because there's such a lot of fuss about homo and bi and I was like "Nooo,not again!".I just don't like it to be something special,but normal.
Jimmy Snerp, I was thinking about the area I am in and not the Sudan,my view on the effect of christianity wasn't meant in a worldwide way.
By the way,I've seen male ducks fucking each other,not to mention Spike the dog who fucked every dog,no matter if he or she although he was castrated.
And if the bonobos are closest to us,I see a lot of things in common.
They fuck for every reason,don't we?

 

[Garret]

Maybe HenryChinaski doesn't like to think about the possibility of Bukowski partaking in any man-on-man action. Heh.

I heard from an *UNCONFIRMED* source that after Buk good-naturley insulted Ginsberg (where he told him he hasn't written anything worth of shit since "Howl"), they went back to Buk's place where Ginsberg them blew him and Buk passiontly plowed him.

I'll look online for photo proof.

 

[bospress.net]

Yeah, let us know when you find that proof...

 

[hank solo]

Locking this thread in 5, 4, 3, 2 ....

 

[bospress.net]

1...

 

[roni]

so, you won't wait for me to come up with a nice make-up?
hey, c'mon!

You cats are very fast these days with locking threads!
(what about that FL-thing for example?!? I don't see the reason.)

 

[mjp]

Come on man, you must be thinking of some German forum! We hardly ever lock threads. That should be obvious by all the newbies running around lately opening two year old threads.

But this being in the "spotlight" forum and all, I would prefer it didn't degenerate any further than it already has, and I think a photoshop creation at this point would put us over the tipping point.

 

[Ponder]

Yes, thread in wrong section.

 

[roni]

... I would prefer it didn't degenerate any further ...

okay.

 

[liquor store]

I would consider him 'straight'. He just liked to play with peoples homophobia. Pretending to be a nazi was probably a similar pleasure for him.

 

[Black Swan]

what do politics, religion, racism or gender always have to interfere with art for chrissake? ;)
We always seem to have the need to exult through other people's differences.
Why not create our own thoughts and enjoy being alive with our own faculties while we can?

 

[mjp]

What are you, a communist?!


;)

 

[Black Swan]

I am taking the fifth.

 

[Gerard K H Love]

But you do believe we should redistribute the wealth.

 

[slimedog]

I believe Bukowski was a transsexual nazi who got off on the bathing suit advertisements from Sears & Roebuck.