Father Luke
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no. i want them to buy it. ;)
What about literary workshops?
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no. i want them to buy it. ;)
vodka
Miss Take
well, Father Luke, i always pretty much figured you'd just send me whatever i wanted. plus money to read it. and naked pixx plz. meeeee-ow punkin.
and i also always kind of figured that getting published was comment enough?
i could be wrong though.
although it would probably be the first time.
and i also always kind of figured that getting published was comment enough?
i could be wrong though.
although it would probably be the first time.
Write with the thought that you'll never get published and never be appreciated for the insights you have. Everyone alive has about the same insights, there is nothing new to say- how you express them is something else altogether. If you give up now, you'll not give a rat's ass and then prob write some really cool stuff. but remember that no one gives a crap.
i hope this helped.
joe
i hope this helped.
joe
i've been to one at my school. it was taught by a writer.
i find it to be the biggest load of dogmatic preaching that i ever did encounter. all he did was harp on other peoples' stories and tell them about "what would work." a couple of people were really broken down. one girl was even crying. he seemed to believe that he was the ultimate authority on "what worked."
i find it to be the biggest load of dogmatic preaching that i ever did encounter. all he did was harp on other peoples' stories and tell them about "what would work." a couple of people were really broken down. one girl was even crying. he seemed to believe that he was the ultimate authority on "what worked."
chronic
old and in the way
Some people don't understand the difference between critiquing and criticizing. Critiques can be very useful (and even fun) when learning to apply technique to creative work, but there's always going to be at least one asshole in the class. When the teacher is the asshole it becomes a problem.
He ain't got no learnin'
DISCLAIMER: Do not try this dangerous language at home without adult supervision. ;)
In keeping with what can or cannot be learned at workshops or elsewhere, here are a few grammatical rules with a twist that I happened to stumble upon with my Id and enjoy - from a classroom at Dartmouth and found on a Russian website . . . yeah, as in The Hunt for Red October:
1. Make sure each pronoun agrees with their antecedent.
2. Just between you and I, the case of pronoun is important.
3. Watch out for irregular verbs which have crope into English.
4. Verbs has to agree in number with their subjects.
5. Don't use no double negatives.
6. Being bad grammar, a writer should not use dangling modifiers.
7. Join clauses good like a conjunction should.
8. A writer must be not shift your point of view.
9. About sentence fragments.
10. Don't use run-on sentences you got to punctuate them.
11. In letters essays and reports use commas to separate items in series.
12. Don't use commas, which are not necessary.
13. Parenthetical words however should be enclosed in commas.
14. Its important to use apostrophes right in everybodys writing.
15. Don't abbrev.
16. Check to see if you any words out.
17. In the case of a report, check to see that jargonwise, it's A-OK.
18. As far as incomplete constructions, they are wrong.
19. About repetition, the repetition of a word might be real
effective repetition - take, for instance the repetition of Abraham Lincoln.
20. In my opinion, I think that an author when he is writing should
definitely not get into the habit of making use of too many unnecessary
words that he does not really need in order to put his message across.
21. Use parallel construction not only to be concise but also clarify.
22. It behooves us all to avoid archaic expressions.
23. Mixed metaphors are a pain in the neck and ought to be weeded out.
24. Consult the dictionery to avoid mispelings.
25. To ignorantly split an infinitive is a practice to religiously
avoid.
26. Last but not least, lay off cliches.
Do svidanija!
DISCLAIMER: Do not try this dangerous language at home without adult supervision. ;)
In keeping with what can or cannot be learned at workshops or elsewhere, here are a few grammatical rules with a twist that I happened to stumble upon with my Id and enjoy - from a classroom at Dartmouth and found on a Russian website . . . yeah, as in The Hunt for Red October:
1. Make sure each pronoun agrees with their antecedent.
2. Just between you and I, the case of pronoun is important.
3. Watch out for irregular verbs which have crope into English.
4. Verbs has to agree in number with their subjects.
5. Don't use no double negatives.
6. Being bad grammar, a writer should not use dangling modifiers.
7. Join clauses good like a conjunction should.
8. A writer must be not shift your point of view.
9. About sentence fragments.
10. Don't use run-on sentences you got to punctuate them.
11. In letters essays and reports use commas to separate items in series.
12. Don't use commas, which are not necessary.
13. Parenthetical words however should be enclosed in commas.
14. Its important to use apostrophes right in everybodys writing.
15. Don't abbrev.
16. Check to see if you any words out.
17. In the case of a report, check to see that jargonwise, it's A-OK.
18. As far as incomplete constructions, they are wrong.
19. About repetition, the repetition of a word might be real
effective repetition - take, for instance the repetition of Abraham Lincoln.
20. In my opinion, I think that an author when he is writing should
definitely not get into the habit of making use of too many unnecessary
words that he does not really need in order to put his message across.
21. Use parallel construction not only to be concise but also clarify.
22. It behooves us all to avoid archaic expressions.
23. Mixed metaphors are a pain in the neck and ought to be weeded out.
24. Consult the dictionery to avoid mispelings.
25. To ignorantly split an infinitive is a practice to religiously
avoid.
26. Last but not least, lay off cliches.
Do svidanija!
Gerard K H Love
Appreciate your friends
He's in Sedona Arizona- a rhyming place out west- so he must be retired.;)
Well, Buk did break a few of these rules, and it made me shudder on occasion. But, he was using common parlance much of the time. Much like singer's lyrics that use "If I was..." instead of "If I were..."
The wrong way justs sounds better; chalk that up to the dumbing down of everyone.
The wrong way justs sounds better; chalk that up to the dumbing down of everyone.
bospress.net
www.bospress.net
If you don't believe that try using "whom" one "ones" where I work and watch the reaction that you will get...
Bill
Bill
vodka
Miss Take
stumbled on this just now... thought of this thread.
now, if you were teaching creative
writing, he asked, what would you
tell them?
I'd tell them to have an unhappy love
affair, hemorrhoids, bad teeth
and to drink cheap wine,
to keep switching the head of their
bed from wall to wall
and then I'd tell them to have
another unhappy love affair
and never to use a silk typewriter
ribbon,
avoid family picnics
or being photographed in a rose
garden;
read Hemingway only once,
skip Faulkner
ignore Gogol
stare at photos of Gertrude Stein
and read Sherwood Anderson in bed
while eating Ritz crackers,
realize that people who keep
talking about sexual liberation
are more frightened than you are.
listen to E. Power Biggs work the
organ on your radio while you're
rolling Bull Durham in the dark
in a strange town
with one day left on the rent
after having given up
friends, relatives and jobs.
never consider yourself superior and /
or fair
and never try to be.
have another unhappy love affair.
watch a fly on a summer curtain.
never try to succeed.
don't shoot pool.
be righteously angry when you
find your car has a flat tire.
take vitamins but don't lift weights or jog.
then after all this
reverse the procedure.
have a good love affair.
and the thing
you might learn
is that nobody knows anything-
not the State, nor the mice
the garden hose or the North Star.
and if you ever catch me
teaching a creative writing class
and you read this back to me
I'll give you a straight A
right up the pickle
barrel.
now, if you were teaching creative
writing, he asked, what would you
tell them?
I'd tell them to have an unhappy love
affair, hemorrhoids, bad teeth
and to drink cheap wine,
to keep switching the head of their
bed from wall to wall
and then I'd tell them to have
another unhappy love affair
and never to use a silk typewriter
ribbon,
avoid family picnics
or being photographed in a rose
garden;
read Hemingway only once,
skip Faulkner
ignore Gogol
stare at photos of Gertrude Stein
and read Sherwood Anderson in bed
while eating Ritz crackers,
realize that people who keep
talking about sexual liberation
are more frightened than you are.
listen to E. Power Biggs work the
organ on your radio while you're
rolling Bull Durham in the dark
in a strange town
with one day left on the rent
after having given up
friends, relatives and jobs.
never consider yourself superior and /
or fair
and never try to be.
have another unhappy love affair.
watch a fly on a summer curtain.
never try to succeed.
don't shoot pool.
be righteously angry when you
find your car has a flat tire.
take vitamins but don't lift weights or jog.
then after all this
reverse the procedure.
have a good love affair.
and the thing
you might learn
is that nobody knows anything-
not the State, nor the mice
the garden hose or the North Star.
and if you ever catch me
teaching a creative writing class
and you read this back to me
I'll give you a straight A
right up the pickle
barrel.
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Gerard K H Love
Appreciate your friends
Nice job vodka! I like that one.
That poem is like his mission statement. With a couple of shots of "Don't Try"