Your Rarest Buk Piece

mjp

Founding member
The scanner will not have a terribly negative effect if it is really thermal paper (and David's description doesn't leave much doubt there). Heat is a bigger enemy. Try reading that printout from the gas pump after it's been in a hot car for a few weeks.

I would be surprised if much remains to be preserved, honestly. But if it was mine, I would definitely scan it at a high resolution and try to pull a good printable image from it.

A copy is the only way to preserve it, there is no way to preserve thermal fax paper. It self-destructs.
 
The authentic Buk tee and sweat shirts produced in 1982 by Black Sparrow Press with an original caricature of Buk by R. Crumb. They were available in six different colors. In my 31 years of representing BSP as an independent publishers' representative to the book trade, it's the only time I ever saw a group of genteel booksellers at a book show push and shove one another to get one of these while they lasted.

Last year, before I knew about you good people, I sent my remaining 6 sweat shirts to a young Buk fan couple in Atlanta. He and his gf were blown away as I never told them about it in advance. It was my token for having turned down their many pleas to sell them my copy of HORSEMEAT. I have 3 of those never been worn tee shirts remaining.

Nope, they are not for sale, but maybe for trade! :D
 

Bukfan

"The law is wrong; I am right"
I have one of those BSP sweatshirts (blue) and one of the T-shirts too (grey).
The sweatshirt is of good quality, produced by Hanes...
 

jordan

lothario speedwagon
speaking of rarest buk pieces... i came across this bad boy today. #1 of 5. it had already been sold; otherwise, i would have tried to buy it somehow.

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OK, I'll ring in. I have a few copies, one signed, of "then I gave up and started drinking heavily," published as Pig in a Pamphlet #12. Also, a ridiculously rare copy of Pig in a Poke #3 -- I only printed a few hundred copies and probably a hundred or so got distributed. Three Bukowski poems and two by Ann Menebroker in that one. Finally, I have what I still believe to be an unpublished original manuscript of a Bukowski poem called "confessional," which I apparently rejected when he originally sent it to me.
 

Bukfan

"The law is wrong; I am right"
Wow, that's rare stuff indeed! Especially the manuscript!
Do you have a pic of it we could see?
 
Yeah, I've been threatening to post it for a while, but work keeps interfering. Maybe after I'm done writing today I'll scan and post it.
 

Rekrab

Usually wrong.
Ah, so I need to reproduce it, to preserve it. True. I hadn't even thought about that, how print on that thermal paper just fades away. Maybe I'll photograph it first, then scan it, and print a copy of two for posterity.
 

Bukfan

"The law is wrong; I am right"
My rarest Buk piece is probably a copy of cirerita press-less series no. 1, printed in only 20 copies, I think. :D
(with a Buk poem about Rimbaud, which has never been collected, I believe)
 

Father Luke

Founding member
I've been reluctant to post this, as it is a very sentimental item, treasured away from it's original resting place like the Lindberg baby in the dark of night by a brave soul who is laying low for a few years as the controversy dies away. . .

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One cup of dirt from De Longpre Ave, from the steps of Bukowski's Bungalow.

I have had it analyzed. Traces of vomit, Michelob Beer, urine, blood, and even cat shit were found.

Bukowski Real Estate. . . in the News.
 

jordan

lothario speedwagon
also, FL, there were very few ARC's of Play the Piano Drunk printed. 29, i think. So you're raring it up on 2 fronts: books and dirt. Dirt collectors? What?
 

Father Luke

Founding member
I'm sort'a new at Ebay. I'm guessing it won't sell. That's kind of my luck?

When it doesn't sell, I'll make a deal with you. And then I can pay rent.

YAY!
 

jordan

lothario speedwagon
unfortunately, now is not a good time to sell rare buk stuff on eBay. it's definitely worth $150, if not more (given the condition), but with scott from abandoned planet hammering prices right now with everything he's got, it would be hard to get more than $100 for it, since it isn't signed. this will probably change in a few months, but i'm guessing you're selling it because you need the money now. also, that book will ship to australia in a flat rate envelope (just put it in between 2 pieces of cardboard), which costs $12... it's not that much of a hassle.
 

Rekrab

Usually wrong.
Good luck on the auction, Father. It seems like a steal to me (although I haven't done any comparison shopping on it). EBay is kind of like God: eBay giveth and eBay taketh away. Lately it's been kind to me but that could change overnight.

Okay, here's a hi resolution scan of that 1993 supposed fax letter from Bukowski to Ed Smith, Editor of SURE. It shows some fading of the typed words at the upper left but really isn't too deteriorated after 15 years. The paper and print looks like early fax to me, but I'm not convinced that's the case. And it seems to have been torn off at the top, as if the paper were feeding into the machine on a roll, as done in old fax machines. Any thoughts?

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Father Luke

Founding member
god dayum that man has secksy eyes. if i buy the dirt does he come with it?
Sorry the dirt is not for sale. I could make up some story about keeping it hidden in my anus, but the truth is that too many lives are at stake. I can't let you take that risk with this dirt. It is, after all, Bukowski Real Estate which has been kidnapped.

Look into my eyes, and know I am telling you the truth . . .

Okay to all that.

unfortunately, now is not a good time to sell rare buk stuff on eBay. . . with scott from abandoned planet hammering prices right now with everything he's got . . .
Well, if it doesn't sell, I'll be happy. The only reason I'm selling it is because I have to pay rent. I really haven't chatted it up, because, in my heart of hearts, I'm hoping it won't sell.

Rekrab said:
Good luck on the auction, Father.
Thanks. In a funny way I'm hoping it does go unnoticed, and that I pay the fees for listing it, and it remains safe and content next to the dirt .
 

Bukfan

"The law is wrong; I am right"
Okay, here's a hi resolution scan of that 1993 supposed fax letter from Bukowski to Ed Smith, Editor of SURE.
It's an interesting letter! It was very generous of Buk to keep sending poems etc. to the small press publications after he got famous.
Thanks, Rekrab!
 

Rekrab

Usually wrong.
He was always very generous to the little mags. That's where he started and he never forgot that. Glad you enjoyed the letter. Now, even if it fades away, it's out there in the world in digital form.
 

bospress.net

www.bospress.net
Hi,
As far as the fax... I think that it was a letter that was mailed to Ed Smith and then Ed faxed it to someone. Bukowski did not seem to have a fax machine in early 1993, as he did not send his first fax (and last) poem to John Martin one year later. I'm guessing that he got the fax machine in early 1994. That being said, he could have gone to Kinkos and faxed it. I just think that it would be strange for him to spend $5 faxing a letter from Kinkos when he could have put a stamp on it.

Maybe someone (cirerita?) can confirm this.

Best,
Bill
 

Rekrab

Usually wrong.
Bill, that's a very good theory and I'd go along with it except I got the fax from Ed Smith himself, and I think he said Bukowski faxed it to him, although I'm not sure about that. If Ed sent it to me with a letter explaining the circumstances, then I have his letter here somewhere, but the odds of me finding it given the current household chaos are zilch. I can't even locate my own recent manuscripts. Maybe Linda faxed it for him? Being in business, she may have had a fax machine.
 

bospress.net

www.bospress.net
That is always a good possibility. Having the use of a fax machine would have been a cool luxury to Buk. I can imagine that he would fax things to people out of curiosity. Although fax machines were not new in 1993, people generally did not have them in their houses.

Bill
 

Rekrab

Usually wrong.
Right. It was a novelty and someone who had a machine would fax items for friends, just to show them how it worked. I remember using very early fax machines in my government job, circa 1983, and they were slow. It would take maybe ten minutes to spit out one page.
 
good to see you posting again, ROC. can we assume that the hardcover trade edition of burning in water is the only hardcover version not mentioned in a BSP colophon (besides unnumbered overruns, like the 1995 NYG)?

i didn't expect to win this one- i put down $225 with 5 seconds left, expecting to get beat by the first guy's proxy bid, and i was shocked that i came away with it.

Hey Jordan

That was me you outbid on that one - I'm still having nightmares about it.

I didn't go any higher as I already had the signed copy - like that should have stopped me!!!

I'm glad it went to a good home ... kind of!
 

jordan

lothario speedwagon
i actually like the actress with the pink dogs better, at least for that book. cool letter, though!
 
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