Dan Fante

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
And it doesn't show online yet (at least not on BN's website) but they're also reprinting Mooch, Chump Change, and Spitting Off Tall Buildings come December... so HC is really getting behind him and getting some backlist titles out too...

More good news for Dan!
 
I read an advance copy of 86'd yesterday, and I thought it was very strong. I read the whole thing through nearly nonstop. If you dig Dan Fante, it's definitely something worth looking forward to.

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Hi All, I apologize if this belongs in a different category but do you know where I could get a copy of the "Sad Flower In The Sand" Fante documentary? The PBS site doesn't have anything and i've never seen it on my local station :( Thank you.
 

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
And it takes about... 2 weeks or so for it to arrive... Mine's sitting on top of my entertainment center, just waiting for me...

I'm glad to hear 86'd was good. I can't wait to pick it up.
 

Rekrab

Usually wrong.
For anyone who's interested, Kissed by a Fat Waitress, Dan Fante's latest book of poetry has just been published by Sun Dog Press. [...]

Surprised to read this. Somewhere I picked up the idea that Sun Dog Press was no longer publishing new titles. Guess that's not true.
 

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
Well the original post is more than a year old now... Copies are still floating around in warehouses though. I really need to read more Fante poetry...
 
Just ordered 86'd, although it doesn't come out until November over here. I can't wait. I've just finished 'Short Dog' which was good but not as good as the three novels I've read. I might have to give Kissed by a Fat Waitress a go before this comes out.
 

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
I haven't read either volume of Fante's poetry, but the individual poems I've read, I like... one of these days, I'll pick up the Sun Dog Press volumes...
 
Impression of D-Fante

Worth seeing. Likable. Vibrant. His nervous energy bubbling over. You can sense his father's DNA pulsing through his veins. I see the Fante physical resemblance.

"Bruno's relationship with his father" - father Fante appears to remain a huge presence in his life and not a very likable one, it seems - very much love/hate, a relationship Fante the younger is working out through the characters in his book, including the DOG. (The DOG?)

Seems about as American as John Fante was Italian, and likes the total freedom of American culture despite its harsh realities. As an Italian-American (or vice versa), he either couldn't or wouldn't speak Italian - in Italy. Maybe he's renounced it. Still, I would have liked to hear him in stripped down Italiano. (Was subtitled.)

He writes as a "slap in the face" to the reader and "to awaken." He feels it's a privilege to be allowed inside the head of the reader. The spiritual connection and experience he talks of is very different than what I would expect, and hard for me to see how it's a presence in his life - he appears not to be particularly at peace or calm with himself. Fine. Just my take on it.

In detective fiction, I believe he was trying to recollect the name...Raymond Chandler - the big d.f. cannoli who is famous after Dashiell Hammett.

Likes Bukowski's poetry better than his novels but has read P.O. and Facto. He pulls up short, holds back on what he feels is missing in Buk's writing - but one can guess that it just wasn't pop POP POPPING enough.

Thanks, Ponder for posting.
 

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
Reading 86'd as we speak... the anti-James Patterson sentiment on page 83 will probably be carved on my tombstone... good work all around...
 

bospress.net

www.bospress.net
I'm reading it now. I laughed out loud when I read this part This is during a job interview in a diner, with David Koffman, who is gay.... (Bruno, who is having serious alcohol withdrawl, speaks first):



"Hey, this is the United States of America if I'm not mis-taken! Okay. We have laws relating to espionage and wire-tapping here. The particular rectumshitbreath jerkoff I'm referring to was a vindictive Persian prick. A pernicious towel- head un-American alien pompous shitsucking dorf. And the sonofabitch beat me out of my final paycheck. Okay! Five hundred and eleven bucks. If that's not the definition of a card-carrying cocksucker then I don't know what the hell is?"

"I can see that we're not on the same page here."

"The page you're on is the page I'm on. Ten thousand per-cent the same page. I promise you."

"So, is it your car? Or the flu? Or are you upset about your last boss?"

"Okay, look, I'm sorry about the cocksucker remark, David. I apologize. Okay. It was uncalled for and off-the-cuff, completely out of context and inappropriate to our discussion. I'll just say this: In my book a cocksucker can be male or female, anatomically. Cocksuckers are"”let's say"”potentially inter-changeable. That doesn't make 'em right or wrong. I think we can both agree on the definition of the word cocksucker as sort of neutral. Okay. I mean you yourself may or may not suck cock. That's none of my concern. It's a private matter between you and your conscience and any other consenting adult whose cock you might be sucking. What I'm saying is that it doesn't necessarily follow that all homos must ipso facto be cocksuckers. Perhaps most are but who says we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Right?"




Classic Dan Fante....

Bill
 
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Why does he end that rather well-written dialog with a hackneyed cliche? Was it the part of Bruno who is just so damned cliche, or what? He had me up until that last line. Then, not so much.

Even if he was trying to portray a hackneyed cliched character, couldn't he have changed horses in midstream?
 
Trying too hard

Very juvenile stuff. Who told him he could write? I read him, for the same reason he got published - he's Fante's son!
 

bospress.net

www.bospress.net
Hey, there's a surprise. You don't like his writing.

Also, I'm not exactly sure that the folks at HarperCollins expected the massive crowd of John Fante readers to buy his books. John Fante was a great writer, but most people that walk into Borders have not heard of him. If his last name was Hemingway I could see that.

Bill
 

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
Yeah the average reader hasn't heard of John Fante. Any time someone needs a rec at work, I always pull out Ask the Dust. I still have yet to meet anyone who has (convincingly) heard of John Fante.
 
Borders in the UK had big posters up promoting his work a couple of months ago. I don't know if that turned into sales, but they were trying. It was all part of some promotion along the lines of 'The Greatest Writers You've Never Read', or some such obvious line. They still have a crappy poetry section though.
 

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
That's good news. I've been under the impression that he's doing ok in the UK just because that's where the first couple of Dan Fante books I came across were printed and sold. Glad to hear they were promoting him as a good writer.

My store has a similar program called "Discover Great New Writers" and about 60% of the time, the author is actually new (the other 40% of the time the author has had a bestseller or two, like the author of Eat, Pray, Love or the author of The Time Traveler's Wife).

And almost all book stores have shitty poetry sections. Well the exception would be the largest of the corporate chains and the indie literary stores...
 
Alright so I just finished Spitting Off Tall Buildings (getting 86'd tonight) - I am a bit confused - according to various websites the order goes Chump Change > Mooch > Spitting Off Tall Buildings.

SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO HASNT READ THESE **

I'm not sure if they are in no specific order - and maybe Spitting Off Tall Buildings is supposed to be the first one chronologically? In Chump Change he comes from NY to LA for his Father's funeral - has the mash up with his (ex)wife and his brother. Then in Mooch he's still in LA and eventually at the end seemingly (not legally) adopts Jimmi's son. Then in Spitting Off Tall Buildings he is back in NY and seems to have never been there before - doesn't know the streets, public transit system, etc - but in the first novel he has been living there with his wife? If you could shed any light on this for me it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Nevermind, I talked to him and he said "Yeah, SPITTING should be first in the order for reading. I'd written the first two then realized I left something out, so then I went back." - whoops, my fault guys!
 
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