Kurt Cobain was a fan of Bukowski

nervas

nervas

more crickets than friends
There was a website once, that took the debate on who wrote Live Through This the whole 9 yards. There were samples of riffs, chords and choruses from live Nirvana bootlegs, that showed some of those riffs on Live Through were being played by Kurt years before. I didn't bother to look, the site may still be around. I just remember after reading about the debate and browsing that site, I was convinced Kurt had a way bigger hand in writing that album then he was ever given credit for. Though I don't think he cared about the credit.
 
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slimedog

I wouldn't be surprised if Cobain had more than a little influence on the music of Live Through This but I tend to think she wrote the lyrics and that and her performance make the record for me. And I agree that it seems Kurt was heading that way without Love's help, I think fame did him in if anything.
 
Ambreen

Ambreen

Sordide Sentimental
slimedog said:
I don't think Axl was on the H,[...].
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I'd rather say I don't think he was only on the H.

All your bad words on Courtney Love remind me of what Mickey Rourke quickly answered to a journalist who was asking him whether it was true he was dating with her. Something like "I'd prefer to be on a desert island with a monkey". :D
 
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mjp

mjp

Founding member
Cool. The screenplay is called everybody goto die someday. I think you're going to like it.
 
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pigmantoo

Maybe you could write a musical about it -- get Axl to write the music. Just an idea.
 
nervas

nervas

more crickets than friends
Judging from the songs and lyrical content on Chinese Democracy I'd say it would only take Axl about a week to write it. All of the topics on Chinese Democracy seem to deal with two breakups: The breakup of the orignial GNR and Axl's breakup with Stephanie Seymour. Those two events happened back in like 1994....

Now recording it, on the other hand would probably take him 20 years.
 
BudaTheStone

BudaTheStone

Kurt burning all of his Bukowski books remind me of what Jimi Hendrix did at Monterey '67. While reading this thread through, I was surprised that noone come up with this suggestion. I take Kurt's action to be in the very same league. Jimi loved to play guitar and loved that particular instrument as well and as we know, he played guitars well after the incident - it was merely not an act of departure from playing guitar but for the average eye what else it could mean? According to him, the whole act served as a cleansing from the subject of his idolization/passion and what this instrument meant for him in order to be able to renew the connections established between them years before this event and elevate it to another level (can't remember source now). In this sense, Kurt's confession in my view should be read just like that and I have a feeling he got the idea clearly being inspired by these actions of Jimi and similarly made such an event out of it concerning his subject of idolization. The expression, "Kill Your Idol" is based on this very same notion but that would take us much farther from here...

On the other hand, Axl was indeed a big fan of Bukowski. Mick Wall gave several Bukowski books to him during 1989 when he was interviewing him and according to Axl, as stated in the book, he was consuming them as quickly as possible. You can read on all this in Mick Wall's book concerning GN'R, "The World Most Dangerous RN'R Band".
 
mjp

mjp

Founding member
I think you are reading way too much into what was only a theatrical stunt. He burned more than one guitar, you know, and he did it at Monterey in order to upstage the Who, or more specifically, Pete Townshend, who put on a destructive demonstration of his own right before Hendrix went on. That was Hendrix's first big U.S. show, and he wanted people to remember him. I guess it worked.

Later, when he got tired of all the hippies asking him why, he may have invented a groovy story to tell them, but he had no such cosmic reasons at the time.
 
BudaTheStone

BudaTheStone

I see what you mean and you're right. But even if Hendrix told several reasons about him doing it, I remember his recollections of the event which were told in one of the documentaries, caught on video and it did not look to be a thing made-up on the scene or before and he evidently looked to be very much serious about this. What you lined up as main motifs behind this act are surely true but that doesn't exclude the other side of the coin.

Edit: we gotta get that video to get into it furthermore...
 
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