Manuscripts

Otto jr · Nov 19, 2019

Martin couldn't remodel a chunk of play-doh into a turd if his life depended on it. He can sure do it with poems though..

Edit: Thank you mjp for the hard work and manuscript uploads.

Gallagher · Nov 21, 2019

Quick question here. I'm slowly reading thru the Manuscripts,..GREAT JOB! Thanks!..!
My questions is: What does 'Collected' vs. 'Un-collected' mean?

I can imagine this IS explained,..somewhere. i'm lazy. please show understanding,...
if not partisan-ship!
Thank you, gallagher

p.s.: While I still CAN...(edit ?), What is a 'broadside'? Thank you. ✌

mjp · Nov 21, 2019

"Collected" means the poem appears in a book. In most cases, as far as this database is concerned, that means a Black Sparrow or Ecco book. "Uncollected" means either the poem is unpublished, or that it appeared in a literary magazine at some point.

A broadside is a poem printed on a single piece of paper.

Purple Stickpin · Nov 22, 2019

Actually, wouldn't the 1983 Groff/Blackrose edition of Aftermath... be considered a broadside? Or is there another term for what appears to be a folded broadside with the poem appearing on two pages?

mjp · Nov 22, 2019

I don't know what the rules are. I was just giving the tl;dr definition.

mjp · Nov 23, 2019

d gray · Nov 23, 2019

that drop-down thing you did is great!

mjp · Nov 23, 2019

?

You mean showing the manuscript in the page? I like that too.

If you're talking about something else, I like it as well. ;)

mjp · Nov 23, 2019

If you were ever in doubt, Bukowski killed it when he did long division.

$Buk-math.jpg$

On the back of a manuscript entitled "EMERGENCY."

Missing decimal point? You would say that, you elitist snob. This is the math of the streets! You wouldn't understand.

d gray · Nov 23, 2019

yeah showing the manuscript - very cool.

that's weird, i had a flashback a couple of days ago of doing long division.

mjp · Nov 24, 2019

https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=251&Title=a-day-so-flat-you-could-roll-marbles-on-it
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=989&Title=dead
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=987&Title=dead-dog (two versions)
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=5782&Title=dead-dog (two versions - original tile: "the difficulty of living at all is so much so bad that it breaks the sides out of buildings and crawls nowhere snails")
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=994&Title=dear-mr-chinaski (yet another in an endless stream of examples of Martin not bothering to understand the poem before raping it)
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=999&Title=death-and-transfiguration (I have two of these, but they are identical printouts, so I only put up one of them)
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=3051&Title=the-death-of-an-era
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=1018&Title=defining-the-magic
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=1021&Title=depression-kid
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=4601&Title=the-difficulty (renamed "snap snap" in Dangling in the Tournefortia and On Love) Interesting that Abel cites a manuscript dated on the same day as this one, but both of the published versions are slightly different than this one. So this was probably an earlier version. It's just odd that Bukowski would date both versions and not just get rid of this one...since they were done on the same day.
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=1027&Title=ding-dong (two versions)
https://bukowski.net/database/detail.php?w=1033&Title=dinosauria-we (two versions, only a minor correction to the first)

carlito · Nov 25, 2019

you are spoiling us with all those new manuscripts!

mjp · Nov 25, 2019

There are still a few hundred waiting patiently to see the light of day.

d gray · Nov 25, 2019

dinosauria is such a masterpiece. makes me think a bit of "The Road" by cormac mccarthy.

mjp · Nov 25, 2019

And it was written in 1991, after he'd lost his abilities as a poet. ?

d gray · Nov 25, 2019

yeah! didn't realise he wrote that so late. writing that strong at that age is inspiring.

roni · Nov 26, 2019

d gray said:
that drop-down thing you did ...

Didn't get it first, because when I click a link I always use the "open in new tab"-option (to not loose the original page), which didn't work here. A secend try was necessary.

d gray said:
dinosauria is such a masterpiece.

An all-time classic for sure.

There's a sort of post-triphop-song from late 2001 using the lyrics here.

Black Swan · Feb 15, 2020

zobraks said:
At the end of Jack (one of the funniest poems for me) he wrote/typed "beanstock."
Shouldn't that really be "beanstalk?" Am I missing something?

Feeling that he liked the sound or the look of the word on the page and wanted to add to the irony of the poem. Maybe! :)

mjp · Feb 23, 2020

Black Swan · Feb 23, 2020

Of Dostoyevsky, he says:
lifted me high through the blackness and put me down in a better place.
That’s a nice line...

Manuscripts

Otto jr

Gallagher

mjp

Purple Stickpin

mjp

mjp

d gray

tried to do his best but could not

mjp

mjp

d gray

tried to do his best but could not

mjp

carlito

mjp

d gray

tried to do his best but could not

mjp

d gray

tried to do his best but could not

roni

Black Swan

Abord the Yorikke!

mjp

Black Swan

Abord the Yorikke!