Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize

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I'm happy, but I hear what people are saying. Of course, some people don't want him to be recognized for anything and want him to fail miserably, just so that they can use that in future elections and to prove their theory that only white people can lead.

It may be too early, but I am still happy.

Maybe it will inspire him to end the wars and close the illegal detention facilities.

Bill
 
roni

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I've heared about it in my café tonight and was surprised.
I too think it's too early now.
I definitely do (did) see him as a candidate for that prize. But getting it now? What for?

I think it's more of a symbol than his real achievments.
Kinda 'Nobel Prize in Advance'.
 
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Hosh

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It's never too soon to reverse the misguided notions of the past.

I see it as a victory of ideas, and can only hope it speeds a move towards a higher human law.

It is early, and shocking...and I think that's the point.
 
number6horse

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They give peace prizes to people who authorize air-strikes into civilian areas ?

I voted for him, I want to see him succeed, and I will probably vote for him again in 2012. But it seems odd that this award should go to a leader who hasn't forged a peace treaty anywhere.
 
cirerita

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More homework for poor Obama. He'll need a couple of centuries to keep his promises and all the things he's been lumbered with. Good luck...
 
Bukfan

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It was way too early. He has'nt accomplished anything yet. He got it because of his good intentions and ideas. I don't think that ever happened before, giving a Nobel prize to a person with good intentions. If that's all it takes, then there must be a lot of candidates for the Nobel prize out there.
Maybe they should create a new Nobel prize, only to be given to the person who has the best intentions of all. :D

Of course, Obama won over McCain. That alone makes him worthy a Nobel prize ;)
 
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Lolita Twist

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mjp said:
Post of the year!
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Agreed, actually.


Anyhow... yes, I'll agree to the statement that he promotes peace (or tries to, in a presidential sort of way). But, I am one of those who think this is a bit too early. I believe even Obama said that upon his acceptance, or something along those lines. Perhaps if he had won at the end of his term, after he had done all the things (or tried his damndest) he says/said he was going to (pull all the troops out, etc...), then I would be a little happier. I support the guy, but I haven't gotten a check yet.
 
Gerard K H Love

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It is not too soon. He went around the middle east and kissed a bunch of ass and made it clear the U.S. is not going to kill all of them.

It is going to be awkward to send more troops to Afghanistan but he'll do it. I bet Rush Limbaugh is excited.
 
Bukfan

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Well, that's not the worst reason I can think of - "not being George Bush". :D
 
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Bruno Dante

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Well it's obviously that but I'd expect the Nobel Peace Prize to be a lot less political. He'd only been in power two weeks or something when the nominations closed. It makes a mockery of something that you'd like to think was above such tawdry politics. As they say in Texas (or is it Tennesse?) "Shame on you" or something ;)
 
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Although I agree that it may have been early, also remember that Obama was not born on 1/20/09. Before that he was a presidential candidate and a Senator who opposed the war.

Also, the speech in Cairo and the his first speech to the Muslim world went farther in advancing peace than 8 years of war ever could. Not to get political and all, but you cannot kill to stop terrorism. Terrorism is the war method of people who have no power and feel aggrieved. Taking away more power and killing more members of their family only makes them want to strap on a bomb and blow themselves up and take others with them. Justice, respect, and EDUCATION will get rid of more terrorism than a million bombs.

Just like in the US. Most of the Christian ZEALOTS feel powerless in society and are very uneducated.

So, yes, I think that he did more to advance peace than any president in recent memory, although most of it was with words, not actions.

Hopefully he'll follow up with actions.

Bill
 
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It's about something different every year. I'm not involved, who am I to dictate the qualifications they consider? Perhaps it's an expression of relief, that the US is going down the tubes less quickly than reelecting W would seem to have indicated.

Great points, Bill.
 
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Bruno Dante said:
I think it should be more about actions than pre-election rhetoric though, don't you?
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yes, and no.

If you look at the pre-election rhetoric, you had one candidate, McCain, that made jokes about bombing Iran by singing songs about it. You had Obama's administration coming on the heels of the Bush/Cheney torture regime, where the former VP still defends war crimes that were conducted at his direction.

So, it is probably premature, but on 1/21/09 we were already starting to make a turn away from torture & endless war and to SOME hope of peace. I hope that he gets us there. Who knows, but it could have been MUCH worse.

Bill
 
Bruno Dante

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If you look at the pre-election rhetoric, you had one candidate, McCain, that made jokes about bombing Iran by singing songs about it. You had Obama's administration coming on the heels of the Bush/Cheney torture regime, where the former VP still defends war crimes that were conducted at his direction.
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That explains why you think Obama should have won the election but it doesn't really justify his winning the prize for me. In the past it always been about recognising achievements that have lead to peace. In this respect Obama has done nothing yet, which is why I think it's political, i.e. a dig at the Bush administration. That's not a criticism of Obama, rather the people who gave him the award. Obviously I hope he goes on to earn the award but he hasn't done so yet, which is why I think it's premature. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a bit embarrassed to have received the award now.
Anyway, politics is boring so I'll draw a line under it ;)
 
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Excerpt from the Speech by Obama:

"I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel Committee. Let me be clear: I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations.

To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace."

So, even he thinks that it is premature.

I'm still happy that he got it.

Bill
 
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I thought it was a load of shit. My reaction was "Huh???" The only way it makes sense to me is if 1) you give it for what a person says rather than for what they do, or 2) you are trying to steer them in the right direction.

Wait five years and see if he deserves it.
 
Rekrab

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Geez, I'm pretty hostile at 6 AM. What I would have said, had I waited a while, was that it indeed does seem premature. The upside, even if you don't think he deserves it, is that it sets the bar high, and he may feel compelled to live up to it.

See how reasonable I am at dinner, with a glass of wine?
 
Bukfan

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The upside, even if you don't think he deserves it, is that it sets the bar high, and he may feel compelled to live up to it.
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I think that's what we all hope for - including the Nobel Committee.
 
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