Was Bukowski bisexual?
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Black Swan
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I have been sleeping with my cat for 17 years what would that make me?
Father Luke
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I'm just guessing here.
That would make you not allergic to cats?
That would make you not allergic to cats?
I didn't really say all that much. I do think that alcohol does bring subconscious(?) desires and such things to the surface. So yes he obviously had some intrest in such things, but how much?
And what I was talking about was the whole "show me your's and I'll show mine" thing. It's not exactly like "hey, fuck me in the arse and I'll fuck you" kinda thing. So does such thing make a person gay or bi?
I believe the term for that is beastiality.
Perhaps he was just curious.
once again, bullshit
I also think he may have been trisexual - rounding up a few chickens NOW and THEN! ;)
I agree with what's being said here.
CarversDog
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Well, in The Day We Talked About James Thurber from Most Beautiful Woman, he engages in a three-way and receives a vigorous and graphicly described blowjob from the boy in the story (even describing the moment when he grabs the boy's head and comes in his mouth).
And, for what it's worth, he identifies the narrator in this one as Charles Bukowski, so I dunno ... do the math. No big deal, anyway.
And, for what it's worth, he identifies the narrator in this one as Charles Bukowski, so I dunno ... do the math. No big deal, anyway.
That's sad that happened, that's fucked that one can't just be who they are without that kind of pressure. I hope you relative is doing better.
When I was agreeing about choice I was more thinking about it like this...
I don't think people realize what sexuality they are until they fall truly in love and that the sex of the person shouldn't matter, if it's love, and therefore one would then make a choice. But I do believe some individuals are born either gay or straight while others later choose in life due to experiences.
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I think that there are certainly both cases. There is no doubt that many people are born gay. Sometimes it is clear from a very early age, even before they have any interests in sex. Then there are those that choose it. Still, I think that a majority do not choose it. It chooses them, which makes the gub'ment sponsored discrimination so wrong. Frankly, two men or two women getting married does not effect my life in the slightest. Why should I care? Why should it bother me? Yet in state by state voting, they ban same sex marriage. I think that very rarely would a person choose a lifestyle that makes them a second class citizen and opens them up to harassment, ridicule, attacks and discrimination based on what they do when they are in private.
People need to be happy in their lives and let others be happy in theirs.
Bill
Here Here!!!! I concur.
Bukfan
"The law is wrong; I am right"
That's right, Bill! As Buk says in one of the stories in Erections... when a guy asks him about choosing writing as a career, "You don't choose to write. The writing chooses you!"
As for same sex marriages, the bible-thumbers still have too much power.
Live and let live!
As for same sex marriages, the bible-thumbers still have too much power.
Live and let live!
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Who gives a crap really? I mean, what does that have to do with his work? Whether you consider that normal or a form of mental illness, it's time to put that stuff aside.
Live and let live, is what I've always believed. It's what I was taught.
joe
Live and let live, is what I've always believed. It's what I was taught.
joe
It's not surprising that folks here sit back and allow everyone else to do whatever. I mean, just how hard is that?
As the definition of "bisexuality" is hardly universal and there is very little evidence to suggest that he is or isn't (and I mean beyond the writing that would rub up against the topic), I would say it's near impossible to guess. I would wonder how this would change the reading of his work (if it would change it at all) and therefore I would ask what is the point in asking?
I know that curiosity forms the question but in the end I wonder if it would alter anything--
I know that curiosity forms the question but in the end I wonder if it would alter anything--
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It does not change the writing at all. It is important to get a clear understanding of Bukowski as a person, though. This gives us another piece of the puzzle that is public Bukowski vs. Private Bukowski.
Bill
Bill
There's the same controversy about Hemingway: outwardly "macho" but "really" sensitive, etc...Male heterosexual strutting and bragging about sexual prowess as compensatory cover-up for actual insecurity in the realm of male-female "relationships" etc etc. You can expend LOTS of psychobabble on this stuff....
Of course if you read Buk carefully, he's ALWAYS showing his sensitivity...
Of course if you read Buk carefully, he's ALWAYS showing his sensitivity...
He was obviously, 'live and let live guy,' and besides that secure enough in his own sexuality that he didn't react in, your typical American Homophobe way toward gays.
He didn't hate them, he didn't love them, he stated once. He may be irked buy the fact that at the time a lot of fags were -published- poets, while he struggled. Bi-sexual, that didn't act on it? I don't think so.
He didn't hate them, he didn't love them, he stated once. He may be irked buy the fact that at the time a lot of fags were -published- poets, while he struggled. Bi-sexual, that didn't act on it? I don't think so.
HarryC13
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Hey Bill, check out my post on this thread ...:)
lol. true.
ive kissed my friends while we were all drunk =D it was all a jolly good time.
even if buk wasn't gay, i don't think he had a problem with gays.